ATLANTISv2 atl-players-digest #97

From: csd@microplex.com (Christian Daudt)

Date: Thu, 06 Jul 1995 00:00:00 +0000

This is kept by me (csd@microplex.com)
If there are any problems, please tell me 'cause I normally
don't have enough time to read them.
If you want previous versions, they are available via WWW at
http://www.microplex.com/~csd/atlantisv2/
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From: Jasvir Manik <manik@exnet.com>
Subject: Do go to Navenby!!
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 95 16:47:02 BST

>
> I would like to point out to all those newbie factions out there that
> we are talking about faction 44. THEY have been in the game since the
> beginning!!
>
> I have been around for less than a year (game time) and have about
> quadrupled in size!! If faction 44 wants to sack Navenby they will!
>
> So please - get a life - Listen to him he is trying to help you!
>
> Thanks
>
> William Cairns
> (g77008@it3.eskom.co.za)
>
I would like to ask these questions :-

If faction 44 is so powerful then why has he not taken this City before this?

Could an establised faction be defeated by an Alliance of newbies say
10 to 20?

Also if he is so powerful then why does he need to warn us, in order to keep
us out? Is he afraid of an alliance of Newbies stopping him?

Points to make :-

Horses may be used to exit Navenby during winter.

Factions can ally with the guards.
A hundred guards plus 10 to 20 factions should be able to defeat 200 of
faction's 44 men he claims he will have.

If faction 44 is not a pure War faction he may not have the men to capture the
City.

We newbies have to go somewhere space seems to be running out, we may have to
be prepared to fight with older factions for a place in Atlantis, if not now
we soon will!

He is making a lot of noise to scare us off, so he can have the City
for himself alone. There are plenty of Land Hungry Factions in Atlantis to
take it away from him.
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Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 13:00:23 -0400
From: Timothy Ireland <tireland@mc1adm.uwaterloo.ca>
Subject: Re: Do go to Navenby!!

Well, try it then....  There will be a nice blood bath...  and you will
wish you listened.  Is is also warning established faction...  There is
no need for us to bother...   Go ahead if you want to...

On Wed, 5 Jul 1995, Jasvir Manik wrote:

> >
> > I would like to point out to all those newbie factions out there that
> > we are talking about faction 44. THEY have been in the game since the
> > beginning!!
> >
> > I have been around for less than a year (game time) and have about
> > quadrupled in size!! If faction 44 wants to sack Navenby they will!
> >
> > So please - get a life - Listen to him he is trying to help you!
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > William Cairns
> > (g77008@it3.eskom.co.za)
> >
> I would like to ask these questions :-
>
> If faction 44 is so powerful then why has he not taken this City before this?
>
> Could an establised faction be defeated by an Alliance of newbies say
> 10 to 20?
>
> Also if he is so powerful then why does he need to warn us, in order to keep
> us out? Is he afraid of an alliance of Newbies stopping him?
>
> Points to make :-
>
> Horses may be used to exit Navenby during winter.
>
> Factions can ally with the guards.
> A hundred guards plus 10 to 20 factions should be able to defeat 200 of
> faction's 44 men he claims he will have.
>
> If faction 44 is not a pure War faction he may not have the men to capture the
> City.
>
> We newbies have to go somewhere space seems to be running out, we may have to
> be prepared to fight with older factions for a place in Atlantis, if not now
> we soon will!
>
> He is making a lot of noise to scare us off, so he can have the City
> for himself alone. There are plenty of Land Hungry Factions in Atlantis to
> take it away from him.
>
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From: William Robinson <bvsnbthd@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu>
Subject: horsemen
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 95 15:23:27 CDT

will the leader of the horseman faction (ie war,famine,pestilence)
please contact me at
    bvsnbthd@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu
                                    thanks
                                        The Carsekians
                                         c/o billy
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From: l40094@alfa.ist.utl.pt (Antonio J Rendas)
Subject: Wanna buy horsey?
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 1995 23:19:47 -0100

Anyone in AC wanna buy a horse cheaper than the usual? Mail me if interested.

-AJRendas
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From: l40094@alfa.ist.utl.pt (Antonio J Rendas)
Subject: Edited rules
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 1995 23:30:53 -0100

To all of you who got my edited rules,please note that the SELL order is
listed as being a month-long order(!),and it is not.I am sorry for the
bug,some of you may have a wrong copy,others may not,please check,and
remove the misplaced "*" from the comments below the SELL order.

Sorry for the error,thanks to all who pointed it out to me.

-AJRendas
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Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 18:34:09 -0700
From: bonder@earthlink.net (Bruce Onder)
Subject: Re: Shafts and inner locations

>description of a shaft I got on the turn report states, "+ shaft [1] :
>shaft, contains an inner location" -- This leads me to believe that there is

Also, a lair I encountered is described as "not open to player units."  How
come?  Can't I beat up the inhabitants and take over their hole in the wall
lair?

Bruce

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Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 14:47:58 -0400
From: schissel@math.cornell.edu (Eric Schissel - grad - Barbasch)
Subject: re:Atlantis 2.0 : Don't...
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 14:47:58 -0400
From: schissel@math.cornell.edu (Eric Schissel - grad - Barbasch)
Subject: re:Atlantis 2.0 : Don't...
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 14:47:58 -0400
From: schissel@math.cornell.edu (Eric Schissel - grad - Barbasch)
Subject: re:Atlantis 2.0 : Don't...
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 14:47:58 -0400
From: schissel@math.cornell.edu (Eric Schissel - grad - Barbasch)
Subject: re:Atlantis 2.0 : Don't...
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 14:47:58 -0400
From: schissel@math.cornell.edu (Eric Schissel - grad - Barbasch)
Subject: re:Atlantis 2.0 : Don't...
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 14:47:58 -0400
From: schissel@math.cornell.edu (Eric Schissel - grad - Barbasch)
Subject: re:Atlantis 2.0 : Don't...
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 14:47:58 -0400
From: schissel@math.cornell.edu (Eric Schissel - grad - Barbasch)
Subject: re:Atlantis 2.0 : Don't...
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 14:47:58 -0400
From: schissel@math.cornell.edu (Eric Schissel - grad - Barbasch)
Subject: re:Atlantis 2.0 : Don't...
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 14:47:58 -0400
From: schissel@math.cornell.edu (Eric Schissel - grad - Barbasch)
Subject: re:Atlantis 2.0 : Don't...

>And we will be waiting for you, to call your bluff.
..  we ...

hey, leave my faction out of this... :)
-faction 753
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Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 23:42:36 -0500 (CDT)
From: James A Edwards <jamis@physics.utexas.edu>
Subject: Meeting

Would the player with the unit of 10 orcs north of stockforth please get
in touch with me. I need to talk to you.

Jamis
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Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 14:49:50 -0400
From: Kevin Lincoln Kendig <kendig@engin.umich.edu>
Subject: Re: Atlantis Q: avoiding, behind
Subject: Re: Atlantis Q: avoiding, behind
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 14:49:50 -0400
From: Kevin Lincoln Kendig <kendig@engin.umich.edu>
Subject: Re: Atlantis Q: avoiding, behind
Subject: Re: Atlantis Q: avoiding, behind
From: Kevin Lincoln Kendig <kendig@engin.umich.edu>
Subject: Re: Atlantis Q: avoiding, behind
From: Kevin Lincoln Kendig <kendig@engin.umich.edu>
Subject: Re: Atlantis Q: avoiding, behind
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 14:49:50 -0400
From: Kevin Lincoln Kendig <kendig@engin.umich.edu>
Subject: Re: Atlantis Q: avoiding, behind
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 14:49:50 -0400
From: Kevin Lincoln Kendig <kendig@engin.umich.edu>
Subject: Re: Atlantis Q: avoiding, behind
From: Kevin Lincoln Kendig <kendig@engin.umich.edu>
Subject: Re: Atlantis Q: avoiding, behind
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 14:49:50 -0400
From: Kevin Lincoln Kendig <kendig@engin.umich.edu>
Subject: Re: Atlantis Q: avoiding, behind

Yes, please send me a copy of your edited rules.  I'm just preparing my
first turn and believe it would be very helpful.  Thanks,

-K
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Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 01:19:24 -0400
From: schissel@math.cornell.edu (Eric Schissel - grad - Barbasch)
Subject: ATLANTIS

i apologise for the cubic yard of headnotes (in a FANFARE magazine phrase)
on my last email to the list... mailed yesterday, but took that long to get here, and with a .long. address...

i don't know why. but i do apologise.
-faction 753 schissel@math.cornell.edu
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Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 14:01:36 -0500 (CDT)
From: GFT_JON@gsbvxb.uchicago.edu
Subject: Shafts and inner locations
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 14:01:36 -0500 (CDT)
From: GFT_JON@gsbvxb.uchicago.edu
Subject: Shafts and inner locations
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 14:01:36 -0500 (CDT)
From: GFT_JON@gsbvxb.uchicago.edu
Subject: Shafts and inner locations
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 14:01:36 -0500 (CDT)
From: GFT_JON@gsbvxb.uchicago.edu
Subject: Shafts and inner locations
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 14:01:36 -0500 (CDT)
From: GFT_JON@gsbvxb.uchicago.edu
Subject: Shafts and inner locations
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 14:01:36 -0500 (CDT)
From: GFT_JON@gsbvxb.uchicago.edu
Subject: Shafts and inner locations
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 14:01:36 -0500 (CDT)
From: GFT_JON@gsbvxb.uchicago.edu
Subject: Shafts and inner locations
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 14:01:36 -0500 (CDT)
From: GFT_JON@gsbvxb.uchicago.edu
Subject: Shafts and inner locations
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 14:01:36 -0500 (CDT)
From: GFT_JON@gsbvxb.uchicago.edu
Subject: Shafts and inner locations
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 14:01:36 -0500 (CDT)
From: GFT_JON@gsbvxb.uchicago.edu
Subject: Shafts and inner locations
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 14:01:36 -0500 (CDT)
From: GFT_JON@gsbvxb.uchicago.edu
Subject: Shafts and inner locations
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 14:01:36 -0500 (CDT)
From: GFT_JON@gsbvxb.uchicago.edu
Subject: Shafts and inner locations

Im a little confused about how shafts work so maybe someone out there
can help me out.   The rules state that "certain structures contain interior
passages to other regions.  The MOVE IN order can be used to go through
these passages; the movement point cost is equal to the normal cost to enter
the destination region."  I infer from this that the passage is a shortcut to
some othe region-- you move in and pop out on another hex.  However the
description of a shaft I got on the turn report states, "+ shaft [1] :
shaft, contains an inner location" -- This leads me to believe that there is
a region below the hex I'm in, perhaps with peasants(underdwarves and darkmen?)
and products and taxable income.  Has anyone had any experience with this
and can clear things up?  What's in a shaft?

thanks
John(faction 820)
gft_jon@gsbvxb.uchicago.edu
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Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 12:47:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: Brian Greer <tekneek@crl.com>
Subject: Re: Atlantis Q: avoiding, behind
Subject: Re: Atlantis Q: avoiding, behind
From: Brian Greer <tekneek@crl.com>
Subject: Re: Atlantis Q: avoiding, behind
Subject: Re: Atlantis Q: avoiding, behind
Subject: Re: Atlantis Q: avoiding, behind

On Wed, 5 Jul 1995, Kevin Lincoln Kendig wrote:

> Yes, please send me a copy of your edited rules.  I'm just preparing my
> first turn and believe it would be very helpful.  Thanks,

Not to be clogging the list with "me too!" kind of mailings, but
I myself would like a copy of the edited rules. I am also preparing for
my first turn.

Brian.

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Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 12:06:41 +0200
From: eloy@piano.icm.uam.es
Subject: re:Atlantis 2.0 : Don't...

Tell me your hex and I (only I) go to kill you

-GM&S

Faction 332
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Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 05:19:08 -0400
From: schissel@math.cornell.edu (Eric Schissel - grad - Barbasch)
Subject: ATLANTIS

given the cc i think it's safe to say that was directed at me in response to
my earlier post...
how's about no one kills me for a while anyhow
-faction 753
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Subject: orders header
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 1995 14:02:48 +0200
From: Thomas Fortunet <Thomas.Fortunet@sophia.inria.fr>

Could someone tell me what the exact subject for the orders
mail should be,please?