ATLANTISv2 atl-players-digest #107

From: csd@microplex.com (Christian Daudt)

Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 00:00:00 +0000

This is kept by me (csd@microplex.com)
If there are any problems, please tell me 'cause I normally
don't have enough time to read them.
If you want previous versions, they are available via WWW at
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Date: Mon, 17 Jul 1995 22:30:45 +1000 (EST)
From: Vaughan Latimer <vlatimer@hilbert.maths.utas.edu.au>
Subject: Platinum Map

Can anyone tell me the adress of whoever is running the Platinum map?

Thank you,

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Date: Mon, 17 Jul 1995 10:47:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jeff Heinen <jeffh@ee.pdx.edu>
Subject: Re: factions

On Mon, 17 Jul 1995, Bobb the Quickling wrote:

> I have a faction that I am no longer interested in playing.  If
> anybody would like to assume the control of this faction then they
> can mail me directly (not through atl-players)( and I will change the
> e-mail address of the faction to theirs.

The question I have is "Is PLaying 2 factions legal? " I assume you could
slowly
move unit members to your fraction and then remove the old faction. Iam a
restarting player and I would love the jump. But is it right? :_)

-Jeff

(I am CC:'ing Geoff to see what he thinks as well )

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Date: Mon, 17 Jul 1995 18:56:22 +0200
From: richie@harare.iafrica.com (Richard Bulajewski)
Subject:

Does anybody have any objection at all to people moving in and living around
that new city, Sinan? If so, keep it to yourself! :-)
But seriously, don't kill me when I enter.

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From: "Bobb the Quickling" <gcannon@mail.easynet.co.uk>
Date:          Mon, 17 Jul 1995 19:33:32 +0000
Subject:       factions

I have a faction that I am no longer interested in playing.  If
anybody would like to assume the control of this faction then they
can mail me directly (not through atl-players)( and I will change the
e-mail address of the faction to theirs.
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  |  Strolling through the internet -         |  \ (        |
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Date: Mon, 17 Jul 1995 13:13:05 -0500 (CDT)
From: Bill Christ <bchrist@wins0.win.org>
Subject: atlantis:  Tactics and Observation in Spakker

I'm looking for a level 4 or higher tactics teacher for one of my leaders
located in spakker.  If interested please contact me with the unit to do
the teaching, faction number and cost.

In addition, I am offering training in observation by a level 4 obs
leader.  The cost will be 40 sil.

Jolly
bchrist@mail.win.org
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From: leete@slack.med.upenn.edu (Tom Leete)
Posted-Date: Mon, 17 Jul 95 16:57:00 EDT
Subject: Faction control
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 95 16:57:00 EDT

To all whom it may concern:

This notice is to announce that due to commitments in some
ephemeral plane called "The Real World", the association known
as The Closed Fist (477) is now being directed by the leader
of an allied faction, Lance Lunchnick and the Litigators (277).
This is a temporary situation, and Mr. Lunchnick is actively
seeking an associate of his to take over command of The Closed
Fist on a short term basis (those not contacted need not apply).
It is Mr. Lunchnick's opinion that this situation will only last
for a single month, and then The Closed Fist will once again
be controlled by an independent entity.  All agreements made
between other factions and The Closed Fist are still valid in
full, and Mr. Lunchnick appreciates the full cooperation of all
factions doing business with The Closed Fist.  Mr. Lunchnick would
also appreciate it if those concerned factions would contact
him so that there will be no misunderstandings regarding
business transactions.

Sincerely,

Lance Lunchnick and the Litigators (277)

leete@slack.med.upenn.edu

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From: chris@cwatts.dungeon.com (Christopher Watts)
Subject: Atlantis:Fetlar(76,56)
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 00:25:06 LOCAL

Could the owner of the unit Outpost guarding Fetlar (76,56) please contact me
ASAP.

Messenger of Ni
The Knights who say Ni(740)
chris@cwatts.dungeon.com
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Date: Mon, 17 Jul 1995 22:10:13 GMT
From: Izzie@meepmeep.demon.co.uk (Faction 757)
Subject: ATLANTIS: *SALE* gloves of strength

*Gloves of strength for sale in AC*

mail me your offer before 6pm Thursday (GMT) if interested.
					Thanks.
--
The Floating Clouds (757)
email izzie@meepmeep.demon.co.uk
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From: "J.P. Harvey" <u3jph@csc.liv.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: factions
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 09:31:15 +0100 (BST)

Jeff Heinen (jeffh@ee.pdx.edu) wrote:
>
> On Mon, 17 Jul 1995, Bobb the Quickling wrote:
>
>> I have a faction that I am no longer interested in playing.  If
>> anybody would like to assume the control of this faction then they
>> can mail me directly (not through atl-players)( and I will change the
>> e-mail address of the faction to theirs.
>
> The question I have is "Is PLaying 2 factions legal? " I assume you could
> slowly
> move unit members to your fraction and then remove the old faction. Iam a
> restarting player and I would love the jump. But is it right? :_)

Yes, I believe it is - giving units between factions is entirely legal within
the game - however, it might have been better phrased if the person above had
said "I'm leaving the game, does anyone want a free unit or two"

If the other player had just started his faction to give money and units to
anexisting one, this would be pretty much against the spirit of the game, but
hepublicly offered his faction away, making me feel that this wasn't planned.

Bob, If you've got any units in A.C. you don't want, I'll look after them realwell...

Jon.

>
> -Jeff
>
> (I am CC:'ing Geoff to see what he thinks as well )
>

Good thing I spotted that - I was just about to do the same...

Jon.
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Date: Tue, 18 Jul 95 09:27:23 +0200
From: eedrsl@aachen.eed.ericsson.se (Robert Schnell)
Subject: Atlantis: People around Sledmere, Menter, Ellesmere,Nork, hear this:

PEOPLE IN THE SOUTH UNITE, UNITE !

Sledmere is fallen to the SCIO and The Black Company!
Darkness is gathering at the city gates, no one is
able to pass unchanged.

All ye high elves, fair dwarves, strong men, peace-loving
people from the South, prepare for your final defense.
The forces of the Dark are gathering in Sledmere and
are preparing to launch attacks on ALL of you.

The battle of Sledmere is lost, about 400 inhabitants
were slain (100 city guard, ~100 regular troops and
200 (!) wifes and children). The SCIO and The Black Company
haven't lost a single man, so strong were they!

A report of the firepower of the dark forces is
given below:

Tacticians:
Alexander (1929), sword, magic sword, leader, tactics 4, combat 1.
Parafael (1013), leader, tactics 2, combat 2.

Magicans:

Fighting with Fireflash:
Chardin Harpell (1290), leader, gloves of strength.
Malchor Harpell (273), leader, horse, sword.
Meister Andras (637), leader, horse, 2 swords; a High Elfe.
Harkle Harpell (1278), leader.
Meline (625), leader, sword, combat 1; a bright-eyed elven lass.
Myril (955), leader; A wisened man in blue and silver robes.
Mira (1339), leader, 2 swords; A wisened woman in blue and silver robes.
Aldar (623), leader, sword, combat 1; a dusty scholar.
Per'Ubu (2441), leader; A joyful old man..
Regweld Harpell (1289), leader, horse, sword.
Warmag Tohrm (332), leader, tactics 1.
Mer'Alia (2342), leader; A solemn woman in a dark blue robe..
Valentin Gondolas (1943), leader; a musician.

Fighting with Cause Fear:
Selaginella (1944), leader, horse; a girl.
Xena (2370), leader; A wisened woman in blue and silver robes.
Master Bildher (945), leader, horse, combat 1.
Lady Barbara (2556), leader, horse, combat 1; a woman, like no other.
Dam'Eliora (947), leader, 3 horses.

Fighting with FIREBALL:
Turgen (954), leader; A wisened man in blue and silver robes.
('Turgen (954) shoots a Fireball, killing 22.')
                                  ^^^^^^^^^^
Regular troops:

Fighter 1 (1009), 17 orcs, 18 swords, horse, 14 chain armor, gloves of
  strength, combat 3.
Fighter 2 (1012), 20 barbarians, 3 horses, combat 3.
Fighters 3 (2010), 23 orcs, 25 swords, combat 4.
Fighters 4 (2011), 49 barbarians, 11 swords, horse, longbow, 49 magic
  swords, 26 chain armor, gloves of strength, combat 3.
Fighter 6 (3092), 37 barbarians, sea elf, high elf, 37 swords, horse,
  10 magic swords, 4 chain armor, 2 gloves of strength, combat 3.
Fighter 6 (3076), 14 barbarians, 4 swords, combat 3.

Mermen 1 (1436), 36 sea elves, horse, 7 swords, gloves of strength,
  combat 3.
Bowmen (1640), 9 wood elves, 2 swords, 8 longbows, longbow 2;
  Protecting the local peasants.

Melvin's 2nd Light Cavalry (1762), 10 high elves, 5 horses, sword,
  combat 2; well-trained, mounted soldiers.
Melvin of the North (333), leader, horse, combat 3, riding 2; a
  stocky, bearded fellow.
Melvin's 8th Infantry (648), 5 tribal elves, combat 3; a few elite
  troops.
Melvin's 21st Infantry (1621), 10 tribal elves, 2 swords, combat 2; a
  handful of sturdy elves.
Melvin's 7th Infantry (552), 5 tribal elves, 2 swords, combat 3; a few
  elite warriors.
Melvin's 16th Infantry (1031), 6 wood elves, horse, sword, combat 2; a
  handful of veteran elves.

Rebels Without a Clue (1037), 11 tribal elves, 5 swords, combat 3;
  tough-looking elves in leather jackets.
Rebel Riders (718), 10 high elves, 5 horses, longbow, 3 swords, combat
  3; highly trained horsemen.
Rebel Riders (1711), 10 high elves, 5 horses, 2 swords, combat 3;
  highly trained horsemen.

The IRS (2327), 10 high elves, 4 swords, combat 3.
The IRS (2189), 10 high elves, 6 horses, combat 3.

Kilath Squad (3415), 9 sea elves, horse, 3 swords, combat 2.
The Ent Squad (5612), 10 tree men, longbow, 2 swords, gloves of
  strength.

Mario's Travelling Circus (990), 10 tribal elves, sword, combat 3; a
  sight to behold.
Aquael (1628), leader, combat 2.
Tanelorn (1279), leader.
Master Hokai (991), leader, horse, combat 2; A bald man in a grey
  tunic..
Watusi 1 (2108), 7 tribesmen, 2 swords, gloves of strength, combat 2.
Unit (4531), leader.
Doriel (1148), high elf, combat 3.
Master Rigoldur (3423), leader, horse, combat 2; A man with a strong
  sense of humour....
Katzhami Bros (2341), 4 high elves, sword, combat 2.
Soldiers (2722), 2 high elves, sword, combat 1; A small group of
  well-trained soldiers.
DelRoy Harpell (1477), leader, 2 swords.
Perimeter Guard (1864), viking, combat 2.

Unit (4679), 2 leaders, horse.
Unit (1814), leader, horse, sword, combat 1.
Unit (1729), 2 tribal elves, combat 2.
Unit (3156), horse, viking, 2 swords, combat 1.
Unit (3495), leader, horse, sword.
Unit (3101), sea elf, combat 1.
Unit (3100), sea elf, combat 1.
Unit (1552), horse, viking.

As you can see, they're VERY strong, and with the tax income of Sledmere
and the surrounding cities they will grow even stronger.

Also the dark forces have a special way of fighting:

They attack one faction after the other, starting with the weakest one,
thus eliminating the city guard first without moch firepower on their side
and avoiding to fight all those who decalred themselves allied with
the city guard.

PEOPLE, don't believe in The Black Company, announcing the safetiness
of DECLARE ALLY 1. It won't help against the dark forces.

After eliminating the city guards they hop on the next weak faction (alliance),
thus eliminating small bands of fighters step by step, until they dare to
attack the big ones, which are then standing sole on the last turf to
be defended. Beware in other cities !

People, move one-man units with combat one to Sledmere and set them on guard.
You don't have to fight anyone, just set them on guard and so BLOCK the tax
income for the dark forces !!!!

You'll make sure that they'll lose an income of 15k and more silver, isn't that
worth an investment of ~100 silver ?

They will be slain each turn, but you will give them a tough time to establish
themselves. Think about it before it is too late.

Don't believe in the propaganda shown in the times. They're using The Southern
Empire as a scapegoat to distract from their own crime. They have brutally slain
every non-allied FACTION, regardless whether they had fighters or not. They
killed all men, women and children. Read their statement in the times, and
then think about what they have done.

I can proof everything I have said before. I hope, someone will listen...

Sledmere Liberation Army

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From: Jon Harvey <u3jph@csc.liv.ac.uk>
Subject: WWW
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 11:16:21 +0100 (BST)

I've been making a few changes to my Atlantis Web Pages, for the first time
inseveral months, (mainly cosmetic and trash removal at the moment). Please
mailme any comments and suggestions.

I'd like to say thanks to all those of you who've contributed to and complained about my pages, as the html I learned has secured me a rather nice summer
job being paid to write the stuff!

Hope things are going well,

Jon.
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Date: Tue, 18 Jul 95 11:32:54 +0200
From: eedrsl@aachen.eed.ericsson.se (Robert Schnell)
Subject: Atlantis: People around Sledmere, Menter, Ellesmere,Nork, hear this:

PEOPLE IN THE SOUTH UNITE, UNITE !

Sledmere is fallen to the SCIO and The Black Company!
Darkness is gathering at the city gates, no one is
able to pass unchanged.

A report of the firepower of the dark forces is
given below:

Tacticians:
Alexander (1929), sword, magic sword, leader, tactics 4, combat 1.
Parafael (1013), leader, tactics 2, combat 2.

Magicans:

Fighting with FIREBALL:
Turgen (954), leader; A wisened man in blue and silver robes.
('Turgen (954) shoots a Fireball, killing 22.')
                                  ^^^^^^^^^^
Regular troops:

Mermen 1 (1436), 36 sea elves, horse, 7 swords, gloves of strength,
  combat 3.
Bowmen (1640), 9 wood elves, 2 swords, 8 longbows, longbow 2;
  Protecting the local peasants.

The IRS (2327), 10 high elves, 4 swords, combat 3.
The IRS (2189), 10 high elves, 6 horses, combat 3.

Kilath Squad (3415), 9 sea elves, horse, 3 swords, combat 2.
The Ent Squad (5612), 10 tree men, longbow, 2 swords, gloves of
  strength.

As you can see, they're VERY strong, and with the tax income of Sledmere
and the surrounding cities they will grow even stronger.

Also the dark forces have a special way of fighting:

PEOPLE, don't believe in The Black Company, announcing the safetiness
of DECLARE ALLY 1. It won't help against the dark forces.

People, move one-man units with combat one to Sledmere and set them on guard.
You don't have to fight anyone, just set them on guard and so BLOCK the tax
income for the dark forces !!!!

You'll make sure that they'll lose an income of 15k and more silver, isn't that
worth an investment of ~100 silver ?

They will be slain each turn, but you will give them a tough time to establish
themselves. Think about it before it is too late.

Sledmere Liberation Army

BTW, I can proof everything I have said before. I hope, someone will listen...

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Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 09:57:09 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dail Rowe <dail@kitthan.gso.uri.edu>
Subject: Re: Atlantis: People around Sledmere, Menter, Ellesmere,Nork, hear this:

> People, move one-man units with combat one to Sledmere and set them on guard.
> You don't have to fight anyone, just set them on guard and so BLOCK the tax
> income for the dark forces !!!!
>
> You'll make sure that they'll lose an income of 15k and more silver, isn't that
> worth an investment of ~100 silver ?
>
Just a note...

Attack comes before tax, so the above strategy will fail unless you can win
the battle.

Dail
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From: Geoff Dunbar <atlantis@rahul.net>
Subject: Re: factions
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 95 11:11:01 -0700

]> I have a faction that I am no longer interested in playing.  If
]> anybody would like to assume the control of this faction then they
]> can mail me directly (not through atl-players)( and I will change the
]> e-mail address of the faction to theirs.
]
]The question I have is "Is PLaying 2 factions legal? " I assume you could
]slowly
]move unit members to your fraction and then remove the old faction. Iam a
]restarting player and I would love the jump. But is it right? :_)

This sounds illegal to me. Playing 2 factions is not legal,
except on a temporary basis (if someone is on vacation for
instance).

Geoff
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Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 16:08:28 -0400 (EDT)
From: Joshua Buchannan <joshuab@m-net.arbornet.org>
Subject: this unit

whoever owns this unit, please contact me:

- Yelm Ice-Spear (5923), horse, tribesman; on guard; A Quilling-Hoe
  warrior.