ATLANTISv2 atl-players-digest #109

From: csd@microplex.com (Christian Daudt)

Date: Thu, 20 Jul 1995 00:00:00 +0000

This is kept by me (csd@microplex.com)
If there are any problems, please tell me 'cause I normally
don't have enough time to read them.
If you want previous versions, they are available via WWW at
http://www.microplex.com/~csd/atlantisv2/
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Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 10:15:44 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jeff Heinen <jeffh@ee.pdx.edu>
Subject: Re: the new mailing list

On Wed, 19 Jul 1995, Dail Rowe wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Is this just a really quiet week in Atlantis Land - not necessarily a bad
> thing - or is there some problem with the new mailing list.  I'm a little
> concerned because (I think) all of the email I am getting is coming from
> the old list, and I am not getting anywhere near the volume that I have
> gotten in previous weeks.  I also know for a fact that one of my allies is
> not receiving postings from either list.  Am I just being paranoid, or is
> there some problem?
Well, if you know about the new list, it must mean you are on it. :_) I
have sent the new list messages over the new list.. :_) The lists have
been on the (relativally) quiet sides. If your alliesdo not get this
message tell them to mail majordomo@ee.pdx.edu with 'subscribe
atl-players' in hte message body and that should solve all. :_)

-Jeff
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From: Jon Harvey <u3jph@csc.liv.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: the new mailing list
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 18:03:31 +0100 (BST)

Dail Rowe (dail@kitthan.gso.uri.edu) wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Is this just a really quiet week in Atlantis Land - not necessarily a bad
> thing - or is there some problem with the new mailing list.  I'm a little
> concerned because (I think) all of the email I am getting is coming from
> the old list, and I am not getting anywhere near the volume that I have
> gotten in previous weeks.  I also know for a fact that one of my allies is
> not receiving postings from either list.  Am I just being paranoid, or is
> there some problem?
>
> Dail

I've sent several bits to one list or the other, but I've just checked my folder, and don't seem to have received copies of them myself. Perhaps we've all
been unsubscribed - I think I'll send a subscribe message for myself just to
besure...

Jon.
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From: Jon Harvey <u3jph@csc.liv.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: the new mailing list
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 18:03:31 +0100 (BST)

Jon.
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From: "D.J. McGaw" <u3djm@csc.liv.ac.uk>
Subject: Dave is still here
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 20:27:01 +0100 (BST)

Hello one and all.

I'm still here.

This is basically a cover note. I am still here in Atlantis and I am planning
on staying for quite some time yet. I basically got spooked by the 'We're
having an Atlantis closing Sale' notices, and thought I'd better say fare ye well
to all and sundry before the players list went down.

To my hopes and dreams, the game is still goning and my fear were premature.

I awoke today to find 251 messages in my mailbox, so everyone who mailed me
directly will get a reply as soon as I get to you in my list. Just hang tight.

(I haven't even got down to my turn yet, and that's what I came in for.)

This is just a basic, I'm still here, and I didn't mean to put the fear of
Godinto anyone with farewells.

If you need me, you know where my mailbox is.

Regards as ever to all.

Dave

(u3djm@csc.liv.ac.uk)
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Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 20:53:20 +0100
From: Tony Sheldon <cs0u308d@liverpool.ac.uk>
Subject: Lautro

Could the owner (Faction 33) of unit 2096, please mail me.

It will take too long to issue the Find order and then mail you, as I am
planning on moving SE through your regions.

Thanks in advance

Tony Sheldon
(cs0u308d@liverpool.ac.uk)
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From: Jon Harvey <u3jph@csc.liv.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Atlantis 2.0 Report (January, 3)
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 19:51:18 +0100 (BST)

Lewis Haddow (9235367@arran.sms.ed.ac.uk) wrote:
>
> I'd like to complain on behalf of all the non-US English-speakers out
> there.  I got an error report of "Invalid skill" in response to the
> order STUDY ARMOURER.  I assume that the fault is that I put in a
> "U"!?  I suppose I should have used the abbreviation "ARM".  I
> certainly could not bring myself to misspell the word.
> Do I get compensation for racial discrimination??
> LH
>
Well, the foreign players do well enough, considering that some of them don't
enjoy the english-speaking ability you demonstrate!

And they don't get compensation!

I guess it's just Tough Luck. If it makes you feel better I've done the same
sort of thing many times before :)

Jon.

Email Address  : u3jph@csc.liv.ac.uk
World Wide Web : http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/users/u3jph/index.html
Atlantis WWW   : http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/users/u3jph/Atlantis/index.html

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Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 15:29:32 -0500
From: jobollin@iumsc4.chem.indiana.edu (John Bollinger)
Subject: Re: Atlantis 2.0 Report (January, 3)

>I tried to give some money to unit 1679 of faction 275, to whom I am
>declared "Ally", and I got the report "Target is not a member of a
>friendly faction".  Is this a bug or have I made a mistake?

To be able to give items or units to another faction, the receiving
faction must have declared the giving faction friendly or better.  In
other words, it doesn't matter whether you are allied to faction 275;
rather, it matters whether he is allied to you.

John Bollinger
Melvin's Marauders (105)
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Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 15:45:35 -0500
From: jobollin@iumsc4.chem.indiana.edu (John Bollinger)
Subject: Re: the new mailing list

Perhaps Jeff should comment on this, but in my past experience with
majordomo-managed mailing lists, majordomo does not send copies of posts
back to the poster.  Assuming that this applies to the new atl-players list
(this one), it is useless to try to ascertain the list's status by posting
test messages.

Cheers,
John Bollinger
Melvin's Marauders (105)
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Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 14:23:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jeff Heinen <jeffh@ee.pdx.edu>
Subject: Re: the new mailing list

On Wed, 19 Jul 1995, John Bollinger wrote:

>
> Perhaps Jeff should comment on this, but in my past experience with
> majordomo-managed mailing lists, majordomo does not send copies of posts
> back to the poster.  Assuming that this applies to the new atl-players list
> (this one), it is useless to try to ascertain the list's status by posting
> test messages.
>
Actually, majordomo always sends mail out to all the recievers. Majordomo
simply sends mail out to everyone on a list. I know listproc dose not
send messages back, but majordomo relies on sendmail to distrubute the mail.
Ive checked everything I could, and so I dont know what to say, everythig
appears to be running well, it could be that we have a longer turn around
time for messages now. Ill look into fixing that tho.

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Subject: Personal Attacks
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 19:57:12 -0700
From: Anson Winsor <apwinsor@span.CS.UNLV.EDU>

You are right. This kind of thing of trying to drag something
from outside the game makes me wonder if the game will be worth
playing.

I wanted to just play a role-playing game.
Nothing personal, nothing from outside the game, just to have
fun in Atlantis.

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From: Lazarus <llong@io.com>
To: atl-design@tango.rahul.net
Cc: Geoff Dunbar <atlantis@rahul.net>
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I found this in the Times and was not amused.
This is neither friendly or role playing.

This is a direct slur against possible fellow players.
Not their faction, not their role playing, but them themselvess

Many times Geoff has told us this is not part of the game.
It is in the rules and it has been retold through the players list.

It does not sound like this faction is trying to perserve freedom
at all. Sounds like a call to hatred that goes beyond the game.
Beyond too far!

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IT IS TIME TO REMOVE THESE ARROGANT AMERICANS.

ANYONE WISHING AN ALLIANCE FOR FREEDOM OR TO MOVE TO BETTER GROUND CONTACT
ME AT RJMCKINNON@ACSLINK.NET.AU (Australia)

Ross.

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From: Jon Harvey <u3jph@csc.liv.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Personal Attacks
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 1995 09:27:56 +0100 (BST)

Regarding this :

>
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>
> IT IS TIME TO REMOVE THESE ARROGANT AMERICANS.
>
> ANYONE WISHING AN ALLIANCE FOR FREEDOM OR TO MOVE TO BETTER GROUND CONTACT
> ME AT RJMCKINNON@ACSLINK.NET.AU (Australia)
>
I can't find this address on the players list at all - is he just trying to
get a 'friend' plastered with hate mail?

Jon.

aka Lord Viper and Lady Venom.

House Banshee (217) of the DOMINION.

Email Address  : u3jph@csc.liv.ac.uk
World Wide Web : http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/users/u3jph/index.html
Atlantis WWW   : http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/users/u3jph/Atlantis/index.html

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Date: Thu, 20 Jul 1995 13:19:28 +0200
From: Ole Guttorm Jensen <guttorm@kom.auc.dk>
Subject: ATLANTIS: Hear Ye!

Hear Ye, Hear Ye.

The Knights request audience with the Master and owner of
unit 3853 (Araila) in Methven (80,60) as soon as possible.

Malleus, Head of the Knights
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From: jeffb@netcom.com (Jeff Bartoszewicz)
Subject: ATL: Gloves of Strength, in AC -->Discount<--
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 1995 08:37:57 -0700 (PDT)

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I will be producing the much desired Gloves of Strength in Atlantic
City this turn.  I am offering a discount for pre-payment:

Cash      or  HEL
               ----          ---
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Half/Half       700/650  or  7/6

This will save you 20% by prepaying fully, or 10% by paying half now
and half when delivered!

Order now from jeffb@netcom.com!
Enchanted Wagons also available, by consignment.
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From: Lewis Haddow <9235367@arran.sms.ed.ac.uk>
Date:          Thu, 20 Jul 1995 16:54:43 +0000
Subject:       atl: abbreviations

I thought I would say one other thing about spelling in orders.  The
rules, as seen on the web page, give the abbreviations of longbow as
LBO and crossbow as XBO, which is wrong, isn't it?  Are they not LON
and CRO?  I think this might be confusing to new players.

LH
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Date: Thu, 20 Jul 1995 12:26:33 -0500 (CDT)
From: James A Edwards <jamis@physics.utexas.edu>
Subject: Re: ATLANTIS: Hear Ye!

Hello,

I am the master of Araila but she currently isn't in hex (80,60). Please
contact me at your convienence.

Jamis

On Thu, 20 Jul 1995, Ole Guttorm Jensen wrote:

> Hear Ye, Hear Ye.
>
> The Knights request audience with the Master and owner of
> unit 3853 (Araila) in Methven (80,60) as soon as possible.
>
> Malleus, Head of the Knights
>