ATLANTISv2 atl-players-digest #112

From: csd@microplex.com (Christian Daudt)

Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 00:00:00 +0000

This is kept by me (csd@microplex.com)
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don't have enough time to read them.
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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 17:39:27 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ruth Thompson <rutht@m-net.arbornet.org>
Subject: hex 49,29

I have spotted this unit in a jungle.  will the owne4r contact me?

- e (5797), 5 sea elves.

Ruth

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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 17:45:38 -0400 (EDT)
From: JaNae <janae@m-net.arbornet.org>
Subject: Utopic Sepia

(5497).

will the owner of the unit Utopic Sepia
  (5497).
 contact me so that I can arrange passage?

JaNae

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Subject: these units
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 14:25:50 -0700
From: Aerron Q Winsor <aqw@span.CS.UNLV.EDU>

will the owners of these units please contact me?
- Unit (3535), leader, horse.
- Falcon (3623), high elf, longbow, horse; A High Elf Archer keeping
  his eyes on things.
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From: chris@cwatts.dungeon.com (Christopher Watts)
Subject: unit 5850 (in 78,58)
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 23:41:11 LOCAL

Could the owner of unit 5850 in fetlar(78,58) please contact me.

Many thanks
chris@cwatts.dungeon.com
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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 17:34:19 -0500 (CDT)
From: GFT_JON@gsbvxb.uchicago.edu
Subject: COM training needed in JACA

I really need COM training this turn in Jaca (at least level 2) and will
pay well.  contact gft_jon@gsbvxb.uchicago.edu
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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 19:36:28 -0400
From: schissel@math.cornell.edu (Eric Schissel - grad - Barbasch)
Subject: TIMES

i .still. haven't received the Times. should i be concerned?
-faction 753
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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 19:44:53 -0400
From: schissel@math.cornell.edu (Eric Schissel - grad - Barbasch)
Subject: ATLANTIS

i seem to have sent this to atlantis@tango.rahul.net by mistake?
should i have received my times by now?
-faction 753
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Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 11:28:37 +1000 (EST)
From: Vaughan Latimer <vlatimer@hilbert.maths.utas.edu.au>
Subject: Anarchy Alliance

I was told in the Times to find the leader of the new
"Anarchy Alliance" on the all players listing.

So where are you? Please contact me, I am very interested.

Also, What is happening to the All players list. What is the new adress?

Thanks.
Vaughan.

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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 19:28:35 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jeff Heinen <jeffh@ee.pdx.edu>
Subject: Re: Anarchy Alliance

On Wed, 26 Jul 1995, Vaughan Latimer wrote:

> I was told in the Times to find the leader of the new
> "Anarchy Alliance" on the all players listing.
>
> So where are you? Please contact me, I am very interested.

I think what he ment is a test file with a list of Faction numbers and
the email of the person to contact. It should be on the ftp site, and I
may make a copy so you can get it through the mail list itself

> Also, What is happening to the All players list. What is the new adress?

Its moved! (Suprise!!) The Good God Geoff (GGG) changed rahul address to
point to my list and it has been in use this way for just about a week
now. :_)
	This does delay the posting of the mail, but it gets there. The
list itself is atl-players@ee.pdx.edu. Feel free to mail me any questions.

> Thanks.
> Vaughan.

-Jeff

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Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 13:17:17 +1000
From: en168107@student.uq.edu.au (Dale Davies)
Subject: Re: TIMES

At 07:36 PM 7/25/95 -0400, Eric Schissel - grad - Barbasch wrote:
>i .still. haven't received the Times. should i be concerned?
>-faction 753

Well I havn't got one yet either... but whether it's been sent or not, or
has vanished into cyberhell, I have no idea.

Dale
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Subject: hex 10,13
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 20:44:30 -0700
From: Anson Winsor <apwinsor@span.CS.UNLV.EDU>

Would one of these factions having these units please contact me

- Dog Representative (3121), on guard
- Dog Guards (4524)
- Mr. White (4621)
- Mr. Pink (4705)
- Unit (4709)

I am a friendly trade faction wishing only to continue to
produce and stay alive.
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Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 08:27:02 -0500
From: jobollin@iumsc4.chem.indiana.edu (John Bollinger)
Subject: Re: TIMES

>>i .still. haven't received the Times. should i be concerned?
>>-faction 753
>
>Well I havn't got one yet either... but whether it's been sent or not, or
>has vanished into cyberhell, I have no idea.

I received both my report and my Times sometime Sunday afternoon.  I do have
the advantage of a low faction number, but anyone who still does not have
a report should ask Geoff for a new one.  As for the Times, it is probably
better to ftp it from the ftp site, or get it from rec.games.pbm, though I
am sure that Geoff would mail that, too, if you asked him.

John
Melvin's Marauders(105)
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From: "Jiri Klouda" <KLOUDA@novell.karlin.mff.cuni.cz>
Date:          Wed, 26 Jul 1995 16:43:34
Subject:       ATLANTIS Unit: nw scout (4025)

Could owner of unit 4025 contact me?
Jirka

* Origin: Ramdrive is write protect.          (A)bort, (R)etry, (I)gnore
Jiri Klouda - Student of Faculty of Maths at Charles University
E-mail: klouda@novell.karlin.mff.cuni.cz
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From: "D.J. McGaw" <u3djm@csc.liv.ac.uk>
Subject: System Crash
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 17:00:13 +0100 (BST)

This is not an important notice, but the system is going down here in about
two mins, so I'll mail you all later

Dave
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From: "D.J. McGaw" <u3djm@csc.liv.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Point Systems
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 16:56:03 +0100 (BST)

OK Mike,

Point taken. I think I was just trying to maintain the balance between single
character roleplay (something I actually do a lot of) and trying to place
yourself in the head of several units to role play a lot more characters.

I apologise if I have given offence by slamming the fellow roleplayers with
unthought-out comments, but this was the point I was trying to make, even if I
went all around the houses to do it.

Role play is fine with me. I encourage it, and I believe Geoff does too (as
well as the countless million players out there). I just thought it was a tall
order trying to put yourself into 40 or 50 places and look through 80 or 100
eyes.

As to your suggestion that Master-Leaders could be brought into the game, mailme more info on your ideas and let me see if I can get a better grip on what
you are saying. I thought for simplisitiy's sake, a faction points system
wouldbe easier to maintain/manage without the rigmarole of trying to keep tabs on Powermongering leaders as well.

I do recall someone mentioning losing a Power leader and getting the points
used on him back, this I don't agree with. If a player, (man unit, leader or
Powerleader) bites the bullet, they are dead permanently in my book. Your
Power-guy dies - tough!

Mail me more on your ideas and let me sift through them. I may come up with
something.

Regards as ever

Dave

> Yes, Mr. McGaw, you are reading me wrong.  Even in the current setup
> we have certain units who are obviously more important than others,
> and in which we invest more of our time and attention, giving them
> names and descriptions, etc.  Role playing is available to those who
> wish it; I do not dispute it.  And I do in fact play another PBM
> game where I have about eleven important characters and then various
> and sundry armies; the distinction is quite apparent to me.  I simply
> think that the current faction point system could easily be made
> equivalent to a master-leader setup; where as was suggested one
> requires a certain number of "Rulers" to tax X number of hexes, or
> Guildmasters, or Mages, etc.  The systems are wholly compatible and
> the distinction is in my mind negligible, and role playing would thus
> be easily increased without affecting the game mechanics appreciably.
> And of course it would be more fun and require a bit more cunning and
> daring, whereas the current system is based a bit much on brute
> strength.
>
> Thanks for your observations.
>
> Michael