ATLANTISv2 atl-players-digest #111

From: csd@microplex.com (Christian Daudt)

Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 00:00:00 +0000

This is kept by me (csd@microplex.com)
If there are any problems, please tell me 'cause I normally
don't have enough time to read them.
If you want previous versions, they are available via WWW at
http://www.microplex.com/~csd/atlantisv2/
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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 13:35:08 -0400 (EDT)
From: Perkmeister <dperkins@gps.northrop.com>
Subject: Atlantis: Gloves of Strength For Sale

Gloves of Strength for Sales.....

Cost          Silver      Hel
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		800        8

. or best offer

Prices are not set in stone so mail me you offers at

dperkins@gps.northrop.com

later,

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P   P E     R   R K K  MM MM E     I S       T   E     R   R
PPPP  EEE   RRRR  KK   M M M EEE   I   S     T   EEEDE RRRR
P     E     R  R  K K  M   M E     I     S   T   E     R  R
P     EEEE  R   R K  K M   M EEEEE I  SSS    T   EEEEE R   R

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From: William Robinson <bvsnbthd@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu>
Subject: Re: ATLANTIS: Q: Research Areas
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 95 15:50:47 CDT

>
>
> For all you Atlantis experts, I have a query regarding research.
>
> For arguements sake, lets say I have a magus who qualifies to research the
> Gadget area, both for "Create Wand of Fireflash" and for "Create Potion of
> Healing". If I order this magus to study the Gadget area, but another gives
> him the spell "Create Wand of Fireflash", can I be sure that he will
> actually research the "Create Potion of Healing" (as opposed to researching
> for the Wand, whilst being given it)?
>

yes because GIVE orders come before RESEARCH orders

However it seems that since there are so many different spells
that fall under the "Gadget" heading there would be no way to tell
which one you actually are researching if you could research two at a time.

has anyone had any experience with this?
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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 95 17:45:07 -0500
From: ffp@magic.ca (Feature Film Project)
Subject: atlantis:orders

I'ts monday 6:00 PM and I have not got my orders yet, or my times. Is it just
me? Does this usally happen to people?
sorry about this.

GPD

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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 07:40:52 -0400 (EDT)
From: Perkmeister <dperkins@gps.northrop.com>
Subject: Atlantis: Gloves of Strength For Sale (fwd)

Gloves of Strength for Sales In Atlantis City.....

Cost          Silver      Hel
----          ------      ---
		800        8

. or best offer

Prices are not set in stone so mail me you offers at

dperkins@gps.northrop.com

later,

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From: chris@cwatts.dungeon.com (Christopher Watts)
Subject: Fetlar(77,56)
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 12:54:55 LOCAL

Noble Travellers,

I wish to pass through 77,56 next turn and if anyone is blocking entry to
that hex could they please contact me.

Many Thanks,
chris@cwatts.dungeon.com
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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 09:43:26 -0400 (EDT)
From: Perkmeister <dperkins@gps.northrop.com>
Subject: Atlantis: Observation Training In Atlantis

Observation Training in Atlantis  (Up to Level 3)

1 - 2   2 - 5   6 -
              -----   -----   -----
Cost(Silver)   40      30      25    Per Individual

Please send Unit#, Number of Individual In That Unit
Make Sure To Declare Friendly Faction 745

email request to:  dperkins@gps.northrop.com

Request must be recieved by 12:00pm EST

later,

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From: Jon Harvey <u3jph@csc.liv.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Atlantis: Observation Training In Atlantis
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 15:20:12 +0100 (BST)

Perkmeister (dperkins@gps.northrop.com) wrote:
>
>
> Observation Training in Atlantis  (Up to Level 3)
>
>               1 - 2   2 - 5   6 -
>               -----   -----   -----
> Cost(Silver)   40      30      25    Per Individual
>
> Please send Unit#, Number of Individual In That Unit
> Make Sure To Declare Friendly Faction 745
>

As ever, my OBS 5 training school is available for the normal $20 a month per
individual in Atlantis City. I have one or two slots available at the moment.

Lord Viper.

House Banshee (217) of the DOMINION.

Email Address  : u3jph@csc.liv.ac.uk
World Wide Web : http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/users/u3jph/index.html
Atlantis WWW   : http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/users/u3jph/Atlantis/index.html

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From: Jon Harvey <u3jph@csc.liv.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Atlantis: Observation Training In Atlantis
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 15:20:12 +0100 (BST)

As ever, my OBS 5 training school is available for the normal $20 a month per
individual in Atlantis City. I have one or two slots available at the moment.

Lord Viper.

House Banshee (217) of the DOMINION.

Email Address  : u3jph@csc.liv.ac.uk
World Wide Web : http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/users/u3jph/index.html
Atlantis WWW   : http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/users/u3jph/Atlantis/index.html

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From: "D.J. McGaw" <u3djm@csc.liv.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: ATLANTIS: Q: Research Areas
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 18:01:45 +0100 (BST)

>
> For all you Atlantis experts, I have a query regarding research.
>
> For arguements sake, lets say I have a magus who qualifies to research the
> Gadget area, both for "Create Wand of Fireflash" and for "Create Potion of
> Healing". If I order this magus to study the Gadget area, but another gives
> him the spell "Create Wand of Fireflash", can I be sure that he will
> actually research the "Create Potion of Healing" (as opposed to researching
> for the Wand, whilst being given it)?
>
>>From looking at the rules I believe that this would be the case, but would
> appreciate if someone could confirm this.
>
> Thanks.
>

Confirmed. Give comes before Study/Research so he will have the spell and
haveno need to research it. He will therefore research the next one,

One point, if a mage IS given a spell, can he cast it that same turn if it is
not an Instant? (IE MonthLong)

Regards

Dave

> _______________________________________________________________________
>
> Matthew Bassett                      internet mail: matthew@te.rl.ac.uk
> Rutherford Appleton Laboratory          janet mail: matthew@uk.ac.rl.te
>
>
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From: "D.J. McGaw" <u3djm@csc.liv.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: New System
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 17:23:56 +0100 (BST)

>
> --Boundary-11662262-0-0
>
> ]3) The points system sounds like a more realistic idea, but what happens
if
> ]you spend all your points (5 wasn't it?) and then realise you want to dropone
> ]point and use it for something else. This is an adventure all by itself.
How
> ]about two orders to USE a point, and one to DISCARD a point (which would
put
> ]it
> ]back on your total to be used for something else)]
> ]
> ]Example time :
> ]
> ]Total of 5 points, USE 3 on War and 2 on Trade
> ]You then chance your mind, you want a mage and 1 point less on War
> ]DISCARD 1 WAR
> ]USE 1 MAGIC
> ]
> ]How does this sound?
>
> Yes, this will definitely be changeable. It will be a lot like the
> current faction system, just a bit more flexible.
>

That sounds a better idea, I like this!

> ]4) The points to regions table Geoff originally sent out seems a bit Too
> ]much.How about this system :
> ]
> ]
> ]points	regions
> ]------  -------
> ]1	5 (minimum is now 5 so every faction can get a decent start)
> ]2	10
> ]3	15
> ]4	20
> ]5	25
>
> Well, so far I've seen people suggest one system (here) where
> the region/point curve is totally flat, and another person
> suggest one that is _more_ scaled than mine (in Vince's post,
> which I meant to respond to, but seem to have thrown away.
> Sorry Vince; I read and listened to it.) Does this mean I've
> found a happy middle ground?
>
> But seriously, here are the systems:
>
> point    Regions(Geoff)   Regions(Dave)   Regions(Vince)
> --------------------------------------------------------
> 1        5                5               3
> 2        12               10              8
> 3        20               15              15 (?)
> 4        30               20              25(?)
> 5        50               25              50
>
> My thinking was that specialization should be encouraged,
> but not necessary, based on comments by some players who
> wished they had the ability to "do it all". Also, it might
> put a damper on the 1 war/1 trade/buncha magic alliances
> that some find distasteful. In my system, generic and
> hybrid factions are a realistic option.
>
> Vince's suggestion is closer to what we have now, while
> allowing more flexibility. Whereas Dave's system makes
> specialization no better than anything else.
>

Good point. Making the bridge in your ideas seems a lot better. 5,12,20 ...
I vote on your suggestion.! It seems a logical bridge. Comments anyone..???

As for the "All out War" option, get someone to run it and see how much carnage they can generate. Sounds fun, although I'm more of a strategy type so I'll
stick to the current one if you don't mind.

Regards as ever

Dave

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From: "Lord Viper." <u3jph@csc.liv.ac.uk>
Subject: Investor Offer
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 18:03:38 +0100 (BST)

Hello,

Do you have a new faction? Are you still in Atlantis City? Would you like to
get your hands on some High Elves?

I can buy High Elves in Atlantis City, because I've been there a long time
andhave the resources to do so.

You can't buy HEL without claiming all your money into one unit! As soon as
the thieves see this, they'll pounce, and you'll rapidly lose lots of money!

I have a position available for an INVESTOR. This involves you giving me a
large lump of silver, and me paying you a monthly income in either High Elves or
Silver. The rate of return will depend on the size of the investment, but
you'll be garunteed a profit (and some elves) from the deal.

I'm looking to help out newer factions in this way (older factions probably
don't need the help or have spent all their silver :)

Applications in confidence to :

Lord Viper.

House Banshee (217) of the DOMINION.

Email Address  : u3jph@csc.liv.ac.uk
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From: "D.J. McGaw" <u3djm@csc.liv.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Question about flying units
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 18:24:11 +0100 (BST)

>         Reply to:   RE>>Question about flying units
>
>
>>I think it is logical that a flying unit should be able to
>>avoid units on the ground. Therefore I suggest that change.
>>What do you think?
>
> I disagree.  Flying units have to land to rest sometime.  Even with good
> weather in plains terrain, a unit will take somewhere around 5 days to
crossa
> sector, ample time to be caught on the ground somewhere.
>
> Mike
>
>

On the subject of flying units, it says clearly in the rules that walking or
riding units take one movement point to enter certain regions, and two to
enterothers, but it DOES NOT mention flying unit penalties (unless you are talking
about weather, which affects all movements).

Does this mean that flying units negate the movement point penalties for
entering any type of region and are only affected by the weather?

This is actually logical, if they can circumnavigate regions, regardless of
their type.

Regards

Dave
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From: "Kristian M. Pettersen" <FE6@stud.hibo.no>
Date:          Tue, 25 Jul 1995 19:16:27 MEZ-1MDZ
Subject:       Re: ATLANTIS: Q: Research Areas

> Confirmed. Give comes before Study/Research so he will have the spell and
> haveno need to research it. He will therefore research the next one,
>
> One point, if a mage IS given a spell, can he cast it that same turn if it is
> not an Instant? (IE MonthLong)

I have tried it.
Yes he can cast a month long spell even if it given to him the same
month.

Kristian M. Pettersen (FE6@stud.hibo.no)

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From: "D.J. McGaw" <u3djm@csc.liv.ac.uk>
Subject: Body 3 Spell
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 18:32:11 +0100 (BST)

Hello all Mages.

Is there anyone out their with the level 3 Body spell? (Probably "Might 2").

If there is drop me a line.

Regards as ever

Dave
u3djm@csc.liv.ac.uk
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From: Scott_Louie@COMPAQ.PRICE_WATERHOUSE.notes.pw.com
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 95 15:40:53 CDT
Subject: Atlantis units

Would the owners of the following units please contact me:
Mariam's Rangers (6021)
nw scout (4025)