BSE Digest v195 #261 From: kerry@info.ols.us.dell.com (Kerry Harrison) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 00:00:00 +0000 BSE Digest Monday, 24 July 1995 Volume 195 : Number 261 Welcome to the BSE Digest, the place to discuss all the myriad aspects of life Beyond the Stellar Empire with other denizens of the Greater Periphery. In this issue: + Re: BSE: New Opportunities + Re: BSE: RIP strike back + Re: BSE: RIP strike back + Re: BSE: von Ludendorf + BSE: Military court vs Civil court + Re: BSE: von Ludendorf + A List of Embot-Accessible Files + Re: BSE: RIP strike back + Re: BSE: von Ludendorf + BSE: Military court vs Civil court + Re: BSE: Military court vs Civil court + Re: BSE: von Ludendorf + Re: BSE: von Ludendorf + Re: BSE: von Ludendorf + Re: BSE: von Ludendorf + Re: BSE: Military court vs Civil court + Re: BSE: Military court vs Civil court + Re: BSE: Skirmish in Podkay + Re: BSE: von Ludendorf + Re: BSE: Military court vs Civil court + Re: BSE: Skirmish in Podkay + Re: BSE: Skirmish in Podkay + BSE:Samillian Press Conference + Re: BSE: Military court vs Civil court See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the bse-list and bse-digest mailing lists. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher Allen <gtt-pd@consensus.com> Date: Sun, 23 Jul 1995 00:39:39 -0700 Subject: Re: BSE: New Opportunities At 1:51 PM 7/19/95, Joe Eckhout wrote: >You can find your colony in the Quoda system (10) on the planet Neptula >(space square 1741). My last intel report said there was a QSN CM, 2 GTT >SoLs in the starport, and a Surveyor hanging out in the space square. Wanna >know where your outpost are and how your ground defenses are doing? <grin> Weird -- as far as I can tell, there are not GTT SoLs at Quoda, nor have any of my players said they have been there with any ship. Could you look and see if this was just a 'ghost' or 'echo' or if there really are GTT ships there? Thanks! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ .. Marshall Whispers, Chairman & CEO aka Christopher Allen .. .. Galactic Transport & Trade 4104-24th Street #391 .. .. GTT HQ, GTT Colony Gaspree (#1656) San Francisco, CA 94114-3615 .. .. Petroom (27-13) in Newbian System (#2) home 415/647-6401 .. .. <GTT-PD@consensus.com> No calls after 9pm or before 9am Pacific! .. ------------------------------ From: LUDENDORF@delphi.com Date: Sun, 23 Jul 1995 10:00:55 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: BSE: RIP strike back > Nothing personal dude... Joe Nothing personal taken. ITS has been targets of the RIP, ever since they were the Brethen, and always will be. Since I controll most of the ITS ships, I must expect a higher incidence of attacks. > wasnt going after any one specific just happend to hit you. I bet you > where comming from Flagritzville (only one space square away) not > sure where you where going though. Since I don't repeat the same routes, i'll tell you. The Chrysotile was coming from Tenhouser with the last of the PG's to be moved elsewhere. Where they were going.... well that's none of anyone's business. I was kinda suprised that you shot up the cargo instead of trying to capture it, there was enough PG's to outfit your WC with better than those measly Sonic Blasters you were carrying. Steve ------------------------------ From: "Cap'n Scragg" <scragg@infi.net> Date: Sun, 23 Jul 1995 13:37:38 +0000 Subject: Re: BSE: RIP strike back > Since I don't repeat the same routes, i'll tell you. The Chrysotile was > coming from Tenhouser with the last of the PG's to be moved elsewhere. > Where they were going.... well that's none of anyone's business. I was > kinda suprised that you shot up the cargo instead of trying to capture it, > there was enough PG's to outfit your WC with better than those measly > Sonic Blasters you were carrying. > > Steve > Sometimes denying the use of a weapon to an enemy is just as usefull as having it yourself. If my ships dish out too much damage there won't be anything left to capture. Photon Guns are good but maybe too good for my purposes. Joe ------------------------------ From: Richard William Chiang <richc@uclink2.berkeley.edu> Date: Sun, 23 Jul 1995 11:24:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: BSE: von Ludendorf On Mon, 17 Jul 1995, Jason Arnold wrote: > ><Starcaptain van Rijn, > >This is correct, I will require an itemized list, along with proof of claim, > >to ensure that the claim is fair and not padded. IE: If you claim a farm > >was aboard the ship and destroyed, then you'ld better produce proof that > >there was in fact a farm aboard the ship and was destroyed.> > > > >von Lundendorf: > > > Drell is currently under the protective shield of your Imperial forces. Is > this not punishment enough? Both the QSN and the FGZ governments have > declared war on the other (unless the Qumans want to retroactively change > the facts again), in war people and things get broken. Wotan: The QSN have never declared war on the FGZ-TH. Please look at your correspondence. We will take appropiate actions depending on FGZ actions towards the QSN. Any military action against the FGZ will be considered a military police matter for the Quman Space Navy. As for your actions in hiring the RIP, it is more than just your methods. You ignored the laws of a soverign nation in their territory. You consorted with the known enemy of a soverign nation for action in their space. Explain that one away, Minister Anton Qutroh Heading for places unknown ------------------------------ From: PROTHORAX@aol.com Date: Sun, 23 Jul 1995 16:33:08 -0400 Subject: BSE: Military court vs Civil court QSN creature, The QSN was caught deliverying a bioweapon for the expressed use on the WaSP! This was verified by the allien group and also the expressed wish to deliver ground military and help destroy the WaSP?! Also, let us not forget the group you hired to scout out our area QSN creature of lies! You activitly sought out our destruction along with many groups in the transhole. We plan to bring the QSN up on war crimes which is suited for such hiddious creatures of aggression. For the FGZ to hire the RIP to hunt down QSN merchant class ships is a logical responce to the QSN antitranshole view and actions. Remeber QSN it was the QSN that started this campaign of terror against residents of the transhole. Not wanting to show the accused our total case against the war criminals we quietly will wait for our day in military court. JANUS PROTHORAX ------------------------------ From: Paul Schneider <pauls@realm.net> Date: Sun, 23 Jul 1995 19:54:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: BSE: von Ludendorf On Sun, 23 Jul 1995, Richard William Chiang wrote: > Wotan: > > The QSN have never declared war on the FGZ-TH. Please look at your > correspondence. We will take appropiate actions depending on FGZ actions > towards the QSN. Any military action against the FGZ will be considered > a military police matter for the Quman Space Navy. > Horsefeathers The QSN, as usual, are changing their story. Below you clearly say the QSN is at war. The GMs should also note that you still are speaking for the QSN even though you are no longer QSN but instead now rule a QSN puppet race. Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 03:43:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard William Chiang <richc@uclink2.berkeley.edu> Subject: BSE: QSN Ambition To: bse-list@fc.net Message-Id: <Pine.3.89.9506060337.B25985-0100000@uclink2.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-bse-list@fc.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: bse-list@fc.net Status: RO X-Status: The QSN High Command has received confirmation of the destruction of our colony QSN Ambition. We are sorry to see the loss of life at our colony and promise vengence for those who lost their life. The QSN were awed by the might posessed by the FGZ and the WCE. Such a battle fleet is of historic porportions. The enemy has finally shone its colors and now we will fight. We are allowing those members of the above two affliations to avoid combat as strategic strikes against our enemies will now commence. When failure results from such agression, we will deal with those two affliations in a fair manner. This the Coilox has promised. Your leadership has lead you in the path of war. You will be the ones who suffer for it. The QSN hopes to avoid unnecessary bloodshed, but we do not know how to avoid those factions in your affliations that have lead you down this path. We will make every effort to do so. When you tire of the war, we will treat you in judicious manner. Lord Anton Qutroh ------------------------------ From: Kerry Harrison <kerry> Date: Sun, 23 Jul 1995 21:59:43 -0500 Subject: A List of Embot-Accessible Files You requested file 'r: owner-bse-list@fc.net' but it isn't available. The list of possible files is as follows: help IMPJax.wk22 PFMDeltaPrime.wk24 GTTSodom.wk24 BSEWhosWho GTTGaspree.wk28 Please send your request again, specifying one or more of these files. Thanks! --- Embot ------------------------------ From: LUDENDORF@delphi.com Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 00:48:44 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: BSE: RIP strike back > as having it yourself. If my ships dish out too much damage there > won't be anything left to capture. Photon Guns are good but maybe too Joe, That's why I like 'em. I captured so many RIP ships in the last couple years, that I got sick of it, and now prefer to destroy them instead. Steve ------------------------------ From: LUDENDORF@delphi.com Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 00:48:53 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: BSE: von Ludendorf > Wotan: <Richard, who are you talking to? None of my char.'s are named "Wotan". Were you refering to my ship named "Wotan"?> > The QSN have never declared war on the FGZ-TH. Please look at your Lord Qutroh, Whether or not the QSN declared war, a state of war exists. PD von Ludendorf OOC: Richard, I got tired of waiting for you to send a copy of the final treaty to me, so I spoke with Tom about it and am having negotiations switched to someone a little more timely. Steve ------------------------------ From: LUDENDORF@delphi.com Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 00:49:00 -0400 (EDT) Subject: BSE: Military court vs Civil court > The QSN was caught deliverying a bioweapon for the expressed use on the > WaSP! This was verified by the allien group and also the expressed wish to OOC: Dave, What? A 200mu can of RAID House & Garden Pesticide? <g> <sorry, couldn't resist> Steve ------------------------------ From: Scragg@infi.net (Cap'n Scragg) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 08:33:20 -0400 Subject: Re: BSE: Military court vs Civil court >> The QSN was caught deliverying a bioweapon for the expressed use on the >> WaSP! This was verified by the allien group and also the expressed wish to > >OOC: >Dave, > >What? A 200mu can of RAID House & Garden Pesticide? <g> ><sorry, couldn't resist> > >Steve > Or maybe a HUGE roach motel. <grin> ------------------------------ From: SYoung3200@aol.com Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 09:46:28 -0400 Subject: Re: BSE: von Ludendorf Paul, Since your message to Richard was written as if it was ooc( your reference to the g.m.'s) I'll answer it ooc. Watch who you call a QSN puppet. I have no ties to the QSN and do not do their bidding. If you want to keep making personal insults and accusations I am perfectly willing to drop down to that level. Just because Richard has dealings with the QSN does not give you the right to insult those of us who do not. I personally see no reason to fight with the WCE, but statements such as yours tempt me to reconsider. And just so everyone reading this understands -I am not unjustifiably going off the deep end on this. If the message had been in character I would have had no problem with it, but written out of character it becomes an insult. Shawn Young ------------------------------ From: SYoung3200@aol.com Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 14:01:24 -0400 Subject: Re: BSE: von Ludendorf Paul, Since your message to Richard was written as if it was ooc( your reference to the g.m.'s) I'll answer it ooc. Watch who you call a QSN puppet. I have no ties to the QSN and do not do their bidding. If you want to keep making personal insults and accusations I am perfectly willing to drop down to that level. Just because Richard has dealings with the QSN does not give you the right to insult those of us who do not. I personally see no reason to fight with the WCE, but statements such as yours tempt me to reconsider. And just so everyone reading this understands -I am not unjustifiably going off the deep end on this. If the message had been in character I would have had no problem with it, but written out of character it becomes an insult. Shawn Young ------------------------------ From: Kevin Curnutt <kcurnutt@metronet.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 16:50:27 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: BSE: von Ludendorf On Mon, 24 Jul 1995 SYoung3200@aol.com wrote: > Paul, > > Since your message to Richard was written as if it was ooc( your > reference to the g.m.'s) I'll answer it ooc. > > Watch who you call a QSN puppet. I have no ties to the QSN and do not do > their bidding. If you want to keep making personal insults and accusations I > am perfectly willing to drop down to that level. Just because Richard has > dealings with the QSN does not give you the right to insult those of us who Hi Shawn, I'm a bit lost here. <g> Richard quit the QSN? Who's he now with? Are you with the same affiliation that Richard is now with? Kevin ------------------------------ From: Kerry Harrison <kerry@freeside.fc.net> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 17:09:11 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: BSE: von Ludendorf On Mon, 24 Jul 1995, Kevin Curnutt wrote: > I'm a bit lost here. <g> Richard quit the QSN? Who's he now > with? Are you with the same affiliation that Richard is now with? They're both in the PGJ. Kerry ------------------------------ From: PROTHORAX@aol.com Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 19:17:58 -0400 Subject: Re: BSE: Military court vs Civil court (ooc) Ya, that over the counter bug spray will get us every time?!<g> later david ------------------------------ From: PROTHORAX@aol.com Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 19:14:43 -0400 Subject: Re: BSE: Military court vs Civil court (ooc) Roach motel?! Ya my colony right?! <g> later david ------------------------------ From: btb4@lehigh.edu (B T Braun) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 19:22:33 EDT Subject: Re: BSE: Skirmish in Podkay TO: Albert E. Junior FROM: Gordon Twillfeather III My dearest Mr. Junior, I am more than happy to forward your request to Minister Wombat. I suspect that in the case of well publicized actions he would be willing to, at the very least, provide some form of pro-rated token of his appreciation so that others may be spurred on to similar acts of glory by example. Contact by private space radio would be most welcome. Be seeing you, Brad Braun btb4@lehigh.edu ///////////////////*********************************************\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ USS: Sheepwrights to the stars since 186. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< ------------------------------ From: "Cap'n Scragg" <scragg@infi.net> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 22:05:58 +0000 Subject: Re: BSE: von Ludendorf > Paul, > > Since your message to Richard was written as if it was ooc( your > reference to the g.m.'s) I'll answer it ooc. > > Watch who you call a QSN puppet. I have no ties to the QSN and do not do > their bidding. If you want to keep making personal insults and accusations I > am perfectly willing to drop down to that level. Just because Richard has > dealings with the QSN does not give you the right to insult those of us who > do not. I personally see no reason to fight with the WCE, but statements such > as yours tempt me to reconsider. And just so everyone reading this > understands -I am not unjustifiably going off the deep end on this. If the > message had been in character I would have had no problem with it, but > written out of character it becomes an insult. > Guys. No offense intended but there are some issues you may want to handle via E-mail and not this list. I don't really care to watch you guys drag out the laundry in public and I'm sure some others feel the same way. Thanks Joe ------------------------------ From: "Cap'n Scragg" <scragg@infi.net> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 22:06:58 +0000 Subject: Re: BSE: Military court vs Civil court > From: PROTHORAX@aol.com > Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 19:14:43 -0400 > To: bse-list@fc.net > Subject: Re: BSE: Military court vs Civil court > Reply-to: bse-list@fc.net > (ooc) Roach motel?! Ya my colony right?! <g> later david > OOC Hell, I hope you guys win but I just couldn't resist! <grin> ------------------------------ From: "Cap'n Scragg" <scragg@infi.net> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 22:12:22 +0000 Subject: Re: BSE: Skirmish in Podkay > TO: Albert E. Junior > FROM: Gordon Twillfeather III > > My dearest Mr. Junior, > > I am more than happy to forward your request to Minister Wombat. I suspect > that in the case of well publicized actions he would be willing to, at the > very least, provide some form of pro-rated token of his appreciation so that > others may be spurred on to similar acts of glory by example. Contact by > private space radio would be most welcome. > OK Gordo I see you disreguarded my "advice". Better muster the USS fleet, I think your gonna need to start escourting your freighters here real soon. Cap'n Scragg RIP Bird's of Prey (4 and 0 so far) ------------------------------ From: TheReavers@aol.com Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 22:38:55 -0400 Subject: Re: BSE: Skirmish in Podkay >>FROM: Gordon Twillfeather III, USS Vivisectionist<< >>I am making this message public [note to Krieger press: You may wish to circulate it in your fine publication as well] because of a new offer from USS Quay (on Stormgate 4). Minister Lavender Wombat has announced a bounty of 2,000 genuine USS robotic pleasure sheep for all confirmed kills of RIP warships, including those dis-ingenuous fellows who think that by disguising themselves as "IND" they are in some way less culpable for their atrocities. This offer does not, of course, include colony kills of suicide ships. << Two can play at this game, so Minister Wombat, until you withdraw your offer, the following bounty of 20,000 stellars for all confirmed kills or captures of USS ships is announced. The Association of Free Reavers ------------------------------ From: "Richard A. Loutzenheiser" <76311.2317@compuserve.com> Date: 24 Jul 95 22:52:28 EDT Subject: BSE:Samillian Press Conference UPI-29/195 (Onondowagah, Ovum, Kellon System, Samillian Hegemony) The following is an excerpt of the weekly press conference held by Vizier Ganeodiyo, the Samillian Foreign Minister. Q. Is the Samillian Hegemony at war with the Pan Galatic Jihad (PGJ)? A. Her Majesty's Government has never recognized that miseugenic splinter faction as a sovereign nation worthy of the term war. As mentioned in a previous press release of 23/195, Her Majesty's government is aggressively persuing actions which shall result in the "reintegration" of the wayward hives into the Vizier Mass. The Grand Vizier and his government has struggled for quite some time to peacefully recollect the Mass. The peaceful reintegration of the WSP and the SLD is fruit of these efforts. Unfortunately the insane queens of the PGJ rebuked our efforts at assimilation and their hives must be rejoined for the good of the Mass. Q. Are there any war zones that merchant's should avoid? A. Travel through the space of the Samillian Hegemony has always been a priviledge granted only upon explicit application and only within specific routes and starports. Travel elsewhere within Samillian space could result in the immediate and total destruction of the wayward space craft without recompense. Q. What systems are included in the Samillian Hegemony? The Samillian Hegemony includes all systems numbered from 76 to 91, inclusive and has since time immemorium. The Transhole Accords and the Samillian-Imperial Treaty are contempoary documents that acknowledge this fact. Any claims, by any party, to the contrary are specious, and will be confronted with the full might of Her Majesty's Government. ------------------------------ From: PROTHORAX@aol.com Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 00:06:09 -0400 Subject: Re: BSE: Military court vs Civil court (ooc) what's funny I played a anti-bug before going bug?! <g> later david ------------------------------ End of BSE Digest V195 #261 *************************** BSE Digest - All items Copyright (c) 1995, by their respective authors, permission is granted to redistribute as long as proper credit is given. To subscribe to BSE Digest, send the command: + subscribe bse-digest in the body of a message to "majordomo@fc.net". 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