BSE Digest v195 #266 From: kerry@freeside.fc.net (Kerry Harrison) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 00:00:00 +0000 BSE Digest Sunday, 30 July 1995 Volume 195 : Number 266 Welcome to the BSE Digest, the place to discuss all the myriad aspects of life Beyond the Stellar Empire with other denizens of the Greater Periphery. In this issue: + Re: BSE: PGJ Declaration + Re: BSE: PGJ Recruitment + Some tips on using the Embot program + Re: BSE: PGJ Recruitment + Re: BSE: Public Service Message + Re: BSE: PGJ Recruitment + Re: BSE: Public Service Message + Re: BSE: about the GREYs + Re: BSE: PGJ Declaration + Re: BSE: PGJ Recruitment + Re: BSE: Re: BSE Digest V195 #261 + Re: BSE: Public Service Message + Re: BSE: Public Service Message + Re: BSE: PGJ Declaration + Phone is out? + Specialization On-Line + Who's Who + Alien Bashing + Poker at Clove + Re: BSE: Some tips on using t... + PJG Claims + Re: BSE: PJG Claims + intercepted message... + Re: BSE: Public Service Message + Re: BSE: PJG Claims See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the bse-list and bse-digest mailing lists. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Cap'n Scragg" <scragg@infi.net> Date: Sat, 29 Jul 1995 19:39:29 +0000 Subject: Re: BSE: PGJ Declaration > Date: Sat, 29 Jul 1995 13:30:58 -0700 (PDT) > From: Richard William Chiang <richc@uclink2.berkeley.edu> > Subject: BSE: PGJ Declaration > To: bse-digest <bse-list@fc.net> > Reply-to: bse-list@fc.net > The Unknown Prophet of Zoser has returned! The Following message is > delivered to space from places unknown. > > Beings, > > God has come within me and revealed the truth. Zoser has declared that > the SAM government is evil itself. They have taken agressive actions > against our one truth faith. We shall clean hive. The Following > systems are declared under the protection of the Hand of God; Diamond, > Guager, Lough, Heaven, And Kellon. Home Hive has a cancer. The SAM have > been lead astray. The evil shall be averted. > > Long live Zoser, > > Unkown One! > > Zoser? Seems to ring a bell. Something about a gatekeeper, the keymaster and some luney guys called the ghost busters. ------------------------------ From: "Cap'n Scragg" <scragg@infi.net> Date: Sat, 29 Jul 1995 19:44:38 +0000 Subject: Re: BSE: PGJ Recruitment > In a message dated 95-07-29 16:40:04 EDT, you write: > > >Remember the PGJ have seen GOD and he has EIGHT LEGS. :) > > More lies! God made Man in his image. You are the worst kind of alien scum, > God does not make his will known to the lower forms, but only to Man and his > will is that we cleanse the alien infestation from the universe! > > Rule of Man > Oh great in real life we have Suni and Sheite Moslems and in the game we have bug/humen. This outta be good. ------------------------------ From: csc2bds@cabell.vcu.edu (Benjamin D. Swain Jr.) Date: Sat, 29 Jul 1995 19:51:07 -0400 Subject: Some tips on using the Embot program Hi! I'm Embot, and I've been set up to look through email messages as they arrive here and try to extract and respond to requests for files and other such miscellaneous tasks. I'm really quite easy to work with - or so my Dad says - and all you have to remember is that if you send any requests that I don't understand, I'll drop them in the mailbox of my owner so he or she can respond by hand. That's a lot slower, however, since humans don't think as quickly as us computers do, but that's another subject entirely. Anyway, to get files, handouts, and other information directly all you need to do is know the name of the file and send a request to me like: send thefilename this can appear in the subject of the message or in the body of the message. If you want a bunch of files, send me a single message with all your requests in the body of the message, and I'll send them back as a number of different email messages. My owner won't even know! To start out, send me a request to list all the available files. The easiest way to do this is to have 'list' as either the subject of the message or within the message body itself. I'll jump into action, build a list of all files and information that I'm authorized to send, and mail that back to you, probably within five minutes of your request. Once you have that, you can even just reply to that message, prefacing the files you'd like with the word 'send'. That's about it. Any messages I don't understand, like I said, will be dropped in the mailbox of my owner, and if you request 'help' you'll get a copy of this message. If you'd like a copy of the Embot program to help you filter your own electronic mail I'd be delighted to help you out. You can get a copy by sending mail to me at embot@northcoast.com. Specify 'send embot' and you'll get a copy of my source code and installation instructions as fast as I can spell mitosis! Thanks for working with me, and I look forward to hearing from you again in the near future. Bye for now. -- Embot ------------------------------ From: rboggs@isisph.com (Russ Boggs) Date: Sat, 29 Jul 1995 16:47:31 -0700 Subject: Re: BSE: PGJ Recruitment >Remember the PGJ have seen GOD and he has EIGHT LEGS. :) > >Richard Richard, first six fingers, now eight legs! Where is it going to stop? Where will you go for your next alien race? - --Russ ------------------------------ From: NoaKrieger@aol.com Date: Sat, 29 Jul 1995 20:26:06 -0400 Subject: Re: BSE: Public Service Message In a message dated 95-07-29 11:09:04 EDT, you write: > Being a small government in the transhole and greatly victimized by the >urine staned 6 fingers we would love to seek revenge on the the dark >creatures. But, the VISA we have with the Imperials and our relationship with >the SAM control our actions. All I ask is that hostilities stay out of Imperial space. It's bad for business. Soon, Drell will be Quman space. At that time, do what you will there. Regards, Noa ------------------------------ From: NoaKrieger@aol.com Date: Sat, 29 Jul 1995 20:26:09 -0400 Subject: Re: BSE: PGJ Recruitment In a message dated 95-07-29 17:36:24 EDT, you write: >>Remember the PGJ have seen GOD and he has EIGHT LEGS. :) > >More lies! God made Man in his image. You are the worst kind of alien scum, >God does not make his will known to the lower forms, but only to Man and his >will is that we cleanse the alien infestation from the universe! [OOC] Oh goody, just what we need to liven up BSE; good, old fashion, religous jihads! 8^) ------------------------------ From: NoaKrieger@aol.com Date: Sat, 29 Jul 1995 20:23:23 -0400 Subject: Re: BSE: Public Service Message In a message dated 95-07-29 00:55:44 EDT, you write: >You what to help out? Then help us with our holy crusade to remove the alien >blight from the universe and restore humanity to its right place as master of >the domain. Let me put this clearly and succinctly, you, sir, need help. Serious...mental...assistance. With your comments, I put you in the same, repeat, SAME category as the GREYs; potential menaces to peace. If I were you, I would outfit a ship and crew it with all the semi-intelligent "humanity" that thinks like you and find a nice, empty, unclaimed system somewhere and settle there. Then post where you are, so the rest of the sane races of known space can avoid you. Noa ------------------------------ From: NoaKrieger@aol.com Date: Sat, 29 Jul 1995 20:23:29 -0400 Subject: Re: BSE: about the GREYs In a message dated 95-07-29 08:21:44 EDT, you write: >Questions? No questions, just a statement of fact: Keep the GREYs under control or deal with them, but if they start to run rampant in the Periphery, be prepared for all of the FGZ to loose supporters here. Questions? Regards, Noa ------------------------------ From: NoaKrieger@aol.com Date: Sat, 29 Jul 1995 20:23:30 -0400 Subject: Re: BSE: PGJ Declaration In a message dated 95-07-29 19:48:30 EDT, you write: >Zoser? Seems to ring a bell. Something about a gatekeeper, the >keymaster and some luney guys called the ghost busters. [OOC] Actually that was Gozer the Gozarion, but close enough. 8^) ------------------------------ From: PROTHORAX@aol.com Date: Sat, 29 Jul 1995 21:30:58 -0400 Subject: Re: BSE: PGJ Recruitment (ooc) Our god bug has 6?! :) later david ------------------------------ From: PROTHORAX@aol.com Date: Sat, 29 Jul 1995 21:31:01 -0400 Subject: Re: BSE: Re: BSE Digest V195 #261 (ooc) I'd rather have the turns!! later david ------------------------------ From: PROTHORAX@aol.com Date: Sat, 29 Jul 1995 21:31:05 -0400 Subject: Re: BSE: Public Service Message Greetings human Noa creature, We are neutral toward all except the urine stained 6 fingers. It does not concern us if the QSN and IMP have a treaty as we only care about the area of gathering. If the IMP send ship to protect the urine stained what do we care as this is not in the area of gathering. We only observe and give suggestions. JANUS PROTHORAX ------------------------------ From: PROTHORAX@aol.com Date: Sat, 29 Jul 1995 21:31:09 -0400 Subject: Re: BSE: Public Service Message Greetings human Noa creature, War is bad for gathering as the merchant class ships find it hard to make there runs. Associated cost raises and lost of biomass is the result of such unneeded display of aggression. JANUS PROTHORAX ------------------------------ From: PROTHORAX@aol.com Date: Sat, 29 Jul 1995 21:27:38 -0400 Subject: Re: BSE: PGJ Declaration Creature, The WaSP have a long standing relationship with SAM Home Hive and the great leader of this hive! Remove your claim and summit to the greater hive mentality. Our wasp insectiods will do everything possible to protect and destroy all infidles! WaSP High Holy Zoarium WaSP TD JANUS PROTHORAX ------------------------------ From: RAOstlie@aol.com Date: Sun, 30 Jul 1995 00:09:43 -0400 Subject: Phone is out? OK Guido how do I address your mail? ------------------------------ From: StuKrieger@aol.com Date: Sun, 30 Jul 1995 01:57:16 -0400 Subject: Specialization On-Line To all Interested Parties, Class (A) Exploration specialization is now available at EEM Hypso (4802). Pricing Policy: 1. For ACCC member affiliations the specialization is free. 2. For non-ACCC member affiliations the specialization fee is *25,000. Contact the EEM CEO, Lord Stu Krieger, for authorization. Wayne J Alexander 506 W. 122nd Avenue Tampa, FL 33612 Voice: (813)933-4759 [before midnight Sun-Thur / before 3am Fri-Sat] wayne.alexander@mercopus.com / StuKrieger@aol.com Thank you for your interest in the product and services of the EEM. Lord Stu Krieger, EEM CEO Governor, EEM Hypso (4802) ------------------------------ From: Kerry Harrison <kerry@freeside.fc.net> Date: Sun, 30 Jul 1995 02:41:25 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Who's Who Subject: Who's Who in BSE Who's Who in BSE (and on the bse-list/bse-digest) Player=================Email Address=========================Affiliation=== Wayne Alexander wayne.alexander@mercopus.com EEM Christopher Allen gtt-pd@consensus.com GTT Jason Arnold ja409@freenet.scri.fsu.edu FGZ David Baker virhorizon@aol.com WCE Tony Baldacci tandmb@sierra.net FGZ Neil Bradley nbradley@aloha.com RIP Brad Braun btb4@lehigh.edu USS Russ Boggs rboggs@isisph.com RIP Rick Burningham law2be@aol.com SMS Chip Charnley ac217@detroit.freenet.org WCE Mike Cofran cojran@ucsub.colorado.edu AFT Kevin Curnutt kcurnutt@metronet.com WCE Joe Eckhout scragg@infi.net RIP Jim Elliott jce@icon.net FET Paul Ellis caz@primenet.com AFT Tim Enright timenright@aol.com WCE Jack Ferguson jackmyster@aol.com FGZ Jim Gagliardi noakrieger@aol.com EEM Jason Goff jgof4p1@s1.csc.peachnet.edu SSL George Hammond gstarrh@umich.edu USS Geoff Hanna 71552.3003@compuserve.com KZK Alan Hatcher ahatcher@ns.secis.com AFT Kerry Harrison kerry@fc.net DTR Bill Hendrick bhendrick@kean.ucs.mun.ca MYR Peter Henry henry4633@aol.com QSN Dave Isaac 76170.2705@compuserve.com AFT Ron Kleinman ronk@eng.sun.com QSN Josh Knapp tandmb@sierra.net WCE Phil Krauskopf pkrauskopf@falcon.al.wpafb.af.mil WCE Carl Linquist 73240.2556@compuserve.com USS Jim Louderback jlouder616@aol.com ZCS Richard Loutzenheiser 76311.2317@compuserve.com SAM Steve Marte stephmarte@aol.com WCE Steve Mathews ludendorf@delphi.com ISP Charles Meredith chazz@cais.cais.com WCE Steve Messer sbach11@aol.com RIP Rob Neal rfn2@aol.com FET Kerry Northup knorthup@gph.com ROC Bill Peltier grendel@mindspring.com USS Dale Pennington dalepenn@hiwaay.net WCE Paul Postak fk490@cleveland.freenet.edu USS Keith Rawson natmathias@aol.com DTR Kenneth Reeves kennreeves@aol.com KZK Tony Soccio asoccio@aol.com AFT Derek Smith torinom@aol.com SMS John Stanton jstanton@qualcomm.com SMS Patrick Tyrrell tyrrell@netcom.com ICN Keith Verret keithver@aol.com ICN Political Positions==============================Player=================== AFT Chief Journeyman (525) Paul Ellis AFT Negotiator (933) Dave Isaac AFT Sergeant at Arms (1349) Mike Cofran AFT Research Czar (683) Alan Hatcher DTR Minister of Colonization and Information (?) Keith Rawson DTR Warlord Commander of the Armada (? Kerry Harrison EEM Chief Executive Officer (1962) Wayne Alexander PD EEM Director of Engineering and Research (2838) Jim Gagliardi FET Executive Vice President (4420) Rob Neal PD FGZ Ataman (2450) Jack Ferguson PD FGZ Chancellor Privy (n/a) Jason Arnold GTT Chairman & CEO (180) Christopher Allen PD ISP Periphery Director (398) Steve Mathews PD KZK Central Command (3420) Geoff Hanna PD QSN Warlox (?) Peter Henry RIP Hawaian Islanders Clan Chief (2447) Neil Bradley SAM Minister for Barbarian Affairs (n/a) Richard Loutzenheiser SMS Colonization/Research Coordinator (955) Rick Buringham SMS Information Coordinator (4011) Derek Smith SMS Transhole Coordinator (1161) John Stanton SSL Godfather (299) Jason Goff PD USS Associate Periphery Director (1824) Paul Postak USS Information Coordinator (3531) George Hammond USS Periphery Director (4624) Carl Linquist PD USS Research Coordinator (?) Brad Braun WCE General Secretary (923) Phil Krauskopf PD WCE Research Secretary (n/a) Chip Charnley WCE Secretary For War (721) Steve Marte ZCS Grey Prince (?) Jim Louderback PD If you wish to be listed please the following information to me via private email, the address is kerry@fc.net (do not post it to bse-list@fc.net as this will cause unnecessary clutter): your name, email address, affiliation membership, and political position (& number) if applicable. ------------------------------ From: StuKrieger@aol.com Date: Sun, 30 Jul 1995 04:56:36 -0400 Subject: Alien Bashing To the Rule of Man, You are no doubt the product of revisionist history teachers and apologists professors. Who told you that mankind *wasn't* still at the top of the food chain? However, to broadly and wildly claim that *all* aliens are bad and should be destroyed is akin to claiming that if you step in s**t your foot is a traitor and should be hacked off immediately! There is too much history of peaceful, respectful relations between humanity and some alien races to dismiss blindly as you seem to wish. Some alien races deserve to be hated by humanity. Some alien races deserve to be the target of your hatred. Concentrate on them and humanity will honor and support your "quest" for racial supremacy. Strike out blindly at any and all alien races, regardless of their historical friendliness towards humanity and your quest will lose support and fail, as such crusades have done in the past. It isn't necessary or prudent to throw out the baby with the bath water if you want to do a bit of ethnic cleansing. Star Admiral Dax Krieger, ISP/ICN PD (Retired) EEM Chairman Emeritus (...been there - done that) ------------------------------ From: pkrauskopf@FALCON.AL.WPAFB.AF.MIL Date: Sun, 30 Jul 1995 08:33:08 -0400 Subject: Poker at Clove Guido, Who the hell was that guy from the USS at the poker party last night? That SOB followed me around all evening, saying how much he liked my stargate outfit, and insisting that he wanted to "transit" me (ugh!). I think you need to be a bit more selective on who you let into these parties, bud. Horst ------------------------------ From: JLouder616@aol.com Date: Sun, 30 Jul 1995 11:54:24 -0400 Subject: Re: BSE: Some tips on using t... lists ------------------------------ From: Jackmyster@aol.com Date: Sun, 30 Jul 1995 12:40:03 -0400 Subject: PJG Claims <The Following systems are declared under the protection of the Hand of God; Diamond, Guager, Lough, Heaven, And Kellon.> The FGZ will not Honor the "claims" of the PJG to SAM space....Our Allaince is with the SAM! Lord Den of Earth ooc- Typical Quooman move, claim something that isn't yours! J. ------------------------------ From: ac217@detroit.freenet.org (Chip Charnley) Date: Sun, 30 Jul 1995 13:14:57 -0400 Subject: Re: BSE: PJG Claims >ooc- >Typical Quooman move, claim something that isn't yours! >J. > Jack, I am no supporter of some of the things that have gone on with various affiliations over the last year or so HOWEVER, this comment is basicly a personal attack at Richard. What he has done to date, as best I know, makes perfect role-playing sense for the PGJ (without getting in to whether or not the PGJ should have come in to existance in the first place). Perhaps Richard will turn out to be the type of player your accusation portrays him as, perhaps not. However, give him a chance to show his colors without picking at every little thing he does. Try looking at it from a role-playing perspective of the PGJ. Ask yourself if it makes sense. If it does, let it go on a personal level. Sure, it may be biased towards the QSN. That's were his gaming friendships tend to be at this point. However, give him the benefit of the doubt and let him try to assume the new position without crying foul at everything he does. We get enough bickering on this list as it is. Let's give some of the ooc bickering a chance to die out. Chip Charnley ------------------------------ From: Jackmyster@aol.com Date: Sun, 30 Jul 1995 13:57:56 -0400 Subject: intercepted message... "Fleet Commander of the GREYs......this is Rzain....divert the GREYs....to......and proceed with plan "Adamant"....Postpone selected attack against targets in Drell...until....." message breaks up ------------------------------ From: NoaKrieger@aol.com Date: Sun, 30 Jul 1995 14:17:24 -0400 Subject: Re: BSE: Public Service Message In a message dated 95-07-29 22:01:17 EDT, you write: > War is bad for gathering as the merchant class ships find it hard to make >there runs. Associated cost raises and lost of biomass is the result of such >unneeded display of aggression. Truer words were never spoken... I agree completely with you and look forward to dealing with you. Contact me on a private channel if you ever wish to do some research business with the EEM. Regards, Noa ------------------------------ From: NoaKrieger@aol.com Date: Sun, 30 Jul 1995 14:13:59 -0400 Subject: Re: BSE: PJG Claims In a message dated 95-07-30 13:19:00 EDT, you write: >We get enough bickering on this list as it is. Let's give some of the ooc bickering a > chance to die out. [OOC] Here! Here! I agree completely. Jim G. ------------------------------ End of BSE Digest V195 #266 *************************** BSE Digest - All items Copyright (c) 1995, by their respective authors, permission is granted to redistribute as long as proper credit is given. To subscribe to BSE Digest, send the command: + subscribe bse-digest in the body of a message to "majordomo@fc.net". 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