ATLANTISv2 atl-players-digest #116

From: csd@microplex.com (Christian Daudt)

Date: Thu, 03 Aug 1995 00:00:00 +0000

This is kept by me (csd@microplex.com)
If there are any problems, please tell me 'cause I normally
don't have enough time to read them.
If you want previous versions, they are available via WWW at
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Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 13:20:09 -0500
From: jobollin@iumsc4.chem.indiana.edu (John Bollinger)
Subject: Player's list usage (was Re: Atlantis mage sale)

Once again, I remind all on this list that replies to offers, messages,
sale notices, etc. should go to the person posting the offer, NOT to this
list.  There have not been many violations of this rule lately, but this
note is a reply to one such.  I don't want to see them rebound.

John Bollinger
Melvin's Marauders (105)

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Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 11:09:56 -0700
From: bonder@earthlink.net (Bruce Onder)
Subject: Re: Finding owners of units

At 9:55 AM 8/2/95, Robert A. Hayden wrote:
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>MESSAGE UNIT
>....
>MESSAGE END

I think the unit can only send the message to a unit in the same region.
IOW, I can't send a message from unit 0000 to unit 9999 if I don't see him.

>MESSAGE FROM FACTION ###

I think it should say what unit is talking, but it's not really neccessary
to give away your faction.  Remember, all orders come from some unit in
your faction.  You shouldn't really be able to send a message from a
"faction" per se.

>MESSAGE XX,YY

Maybe a "POST" command to stake signs in your region.  You could say
something like

UNIT 9999
        POST "Hear ye, all units must pay 5 SIL per turn to Tax Collector
Joe or suffer the wrath of the Dragon Horde..."

I would say that only a unit from the faction that is guarding the region
can POST.

>Just some thoughts.

I like it!

Bruce Onder                      | We write and design computer games.
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310.519.5993                     |
310.837.8533 fax                 | Or don't.

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Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 11:09:45 -0700
From: bonder@earthlink.net (Bruce Onder)
Subject: Re: Finding owners of units

At 7:42 PM 8/1/95, Geoff Dunbar wrote:

>Well, if they don't give an address, or use REVEAL FACTION,
>I guess they don't want to talk to you.

Well, I am always interested in talking with anybody who might decide to
kick my ass just for walking into a "situation."  I like your idea of
putting your e-mail address into the description of the unit for now.

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Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 13:59:22 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Robert A. Hayden" <hayden@krypton.mankato.msus.edu>
Subject: Magic Items forsale in AC

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I have the following Magic Items forsale in Atlantis City.  Please email
if interested:

Gloves of Strength x2		$750 ea
Potions of Healing x7		$ 60 ea or 2 for $100

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Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 13:57:00 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Robert A. Hayden" <hayden@krypton.mankato.msus.edu>
Subject: WANTED:  Combat in AC

I am looking for training in Combat in AC.  Please email with prices.

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Date: Wed, 2 Aug 95 12:31:45 PDT
From: "Odin Lord of Vallhala" <JSKJONSB@us.oracle.com>
Subject: Re: Player's list usage (was Re: Atlantis mage sale)

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In this case he did not put a return adress in the body and my system only
had atl-players as an address.  Sorry to reply to the message board
A reminder to people posting put your personal adress somewhere in the body
if you want people repling to you

Many Thanks,
                   />  Odin, Leader of the Norse Gods
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Received: 02 Aug 1995 12:10:48                    Sent: 02 Aug 1995 12:06:56
From:"John Bollinger" <atl-players-approval@ee.pdx.edu>
To: atl-players@ee.pdx.edu
Subject: Player's list usage (was Re: Atlantis mage sale)
Reply-to: atl-players-approval@ee.pdx.edu
X-Orcl-Application: Sender:  owner-atl-players@ee.pdx.edu
X-Orcl-Application: Precedence:  bulk

John Bollinger
Melvin's Marauders (105)

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Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 15:55:11 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Robert A. Hayden" <hayden@krypton.mankato.msus.edu>
Subject: Re: Atlantis mage sale

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Let's pretend your Mage is UNIT 666
Let's pretend the person you are giving it has UNIT 667 and is FACTION 668

Your orders for your mage would be:

UNIT 666
	DECLARE 668 FRIENDLY
	GIVE 667 UNIT

What the GIVE command does is give CONTROL of the unit to the person that
controls 667.  The UNIT's number doesn't change, only the control.

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From: "ROB PETERS" <RPeters@Defender.Defenders.org>
Date:          Wed, 2 Aug 1995 15:58:50 EST
Subject:       Re:  Atlantis mage sale

To the many parties interested in buying my mage: Thanks for your
interest & I'm sorry I've had to disappoint most of you.  I've
agreed to sell him to the first person who wrote.  If the sale falls
through I'll contact others who wrote.

Question: Trying to figure out how to transfer the mage to the other
player poses a conundrum.  Usually, I would just transfer the unit to
a player's existing unit.  However, according to the rules a mage
must be a single leader.  Therefore transferring the mage directly to
another unit doesn't seem likely to work.

According to the manual, the sample order for giving a unit to another
player is:

Give <unit> UNIT

The sample order for giving something to a newly formed unit is:

Give FACTION 14 new 1 5 "chain armor"

Therefore, I assume that, combining these two models, the correct
order to give someone a mage is:

Give Faction 14 new 1 unit

This assumes that the receiving player will have created a new unit
1, on the same turn I'm giving them the mage, as per:

Unit 9999
    form 1
    name unit "new mage"
    end
give new 1 20 sil
#end

Any advice out there?  Has anyone given a mage to someone else
successfully?  Thanks very much for help.  Rob

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Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 20:42:43 -0500 (CDT)
From: Lazarus <llong@io.com>
Subject: Re: Atlantis mage sale

With one change.
The faction you are giving the unit to must declare you friendly.
You do not have to be friendly to them to give them stuff.

On Wed, 2 Aug 1995, Robert A. Hayden wrote:

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> UNIT 666
> 	DECLARE 668 FRIENDLY
> 	GIVE 667 UNIT
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> What the GIVE command does is give CONTROL of the unit to the person that
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Date: Thu, 3 Aug 1995 13:05:58 +1000 (EST)
From: Robert Henley <rhenley@st.nepean.uws.edu.au>
Subject: atlantis

factions 905 and 44 are still searching for factions in atlntis city to join
them we offer study help,all factions will be considered.we are
interested in magic factions most of all.
we are a war faction and a trade faction.

contact me at my e-mail address if you wish to join our alliance
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Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 22:51:16 -0700
From: "Mathew D. Watson" <matw@halcyon.com>
Subject: Atlantis: (4,18) AE Management Trainees (1078).  What's up?

To: AE Management Trainees (1078), in Dezhou (4,18) ...

Hey guys, I'm tryin to take some horses to
a guy in Kashmar.  Wanna let me pass? Or do I
gotta go back? Snow Leopards won't like it,
and neither will by boss McRoot.

Don't wan't no trouble with you,
just gotta job I got to do.

Dach
  McRoot's agent
  1 Orc lane
  Abernethy

matw@halcyon.com

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Date: Thu, 03 Aug 1995 13:11:13 +0100 (WET DST)
From: u0904872@soneto.etsiig.uniovi.es (AL PERTIERRA)
Subject: Be careful of thieving

Be careful... SCIO, that used to tell that Southern Empire were a hand of
thieves has his thieves too:
 Casper has stolen 35 silver coins to Head of Oxen on Febraury's turn
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Date: Thu, 03 Aug 1995 17:48:07 +0200
From: richie@harare.iafrica.com (Richard Bulajewski)
Subject: Atlantis: Taxing

If 10 men with COM 2 tax a region, do they get $1000 silver because of their
higher combat level or do they get only $500?

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From: "D.J. McGaw" <u3djm@csc.liv.ac.uk>
Subject: Dave gets a pasting!
Date: Thu,  3 Aug 1995 16:47:44 +0100 (BST)

Hey folks, looks like I'm gonna die again. Check this out!

Battles during turn:
Frank and his large chopper (4100) attacks Rally Cheyenne (1117) in
  Scandamia (13,29)!

Attackers:
Frank and his large chopper (4100), leader, combat 2; I like to press
  wild flowers....
Geek Gordon (6352), viking, combat 1; homicidal axe-wielding maniac
  with a melon fixation.
New Hong Kong Leftovers (6504), 2 vikings; The Brothers.
Short and Furry (6505), viking; Short and furry viking.
Dons casuals (5970), 3 tribesmen, combat 1; A bunch of rowdies with
  red scarves.
Pa Angel (709), leader, tactics 2, combat 1; Leader Of The Angel Gang.
Lobster Busqueue (1248), leader; A man with an unfortunate name.
Captain Pugwash (3955), leader, combat 2; It's not true about me and
  the cabin boy....
The crew (4099), 2 high elves, combat 3; A rowdy bunch of jolly jack
  tars.
Link & Junior Angel (4101), 2 high elves, combat 2; Bad Ass Dudes.
John Smallberries (4146), leader; Fish!.
A large line of elves (4388), 3 high elves, combat 2; Is this the
  queue for the toilet ?.
The Kovacs Mob (4389), 3 high elves, combat 2; A Gang Of Desperados.
John YaaYaa (4426), leader; Spoon!.
Brother Edmond (4428), leader; brother to the recently deceased.
Harvey Finklestein (4657), leader, combat 2; a man more iron than
  flesh.
Owl Boy (4662), leader, combat 2; Who are you calling a twit?.
John Worfin (667), leader, horse, combat 2; Laugh all you can monkey
  boy.
Mean Machine Angel (3959), leader, combat 1, riding 1; Just Fer That
  I'm Goin Upta 4 !.
Hong Kong Cavaliers (6069), 10 vikings, horse, combat 2; A happy group
  of sailors.
Full Mental Jackets (6153), 11 vikings, combat 1; juve gang.
Hong Kong Left Overs (6276), 3 vikings, combat 1; Hey what about us ?.
Max Normal (6356), viking, combat 1; suave dude with an ear for
  gossip.
New Hong Kong Cavaliers (6503), 10 vikings; More Happy Lumberjacks.

Defenders:
Rally Cheyenne (1117), leader, horse, combat 1.
Guards (6036), 7 vikings, combat 1.
Guards (6037), 9 vikings.
Guards (6245), 3 vikings.
Guards (6246), 3 vikings.
Unit (6487), 14 vikings.

Frank and his large chopper (4100) gets a free round of attacks.
Rally Cheyenne (1117) loses 25.

Rally Cheyenne (1117) is routed!
Frank and his large chopper (4100) gets a free round of attacks.
Rally Cheyenne (1117) loses 12.

Total Casualties:
Rally Cheyenne (1117) loses 37.
Frank and his large chopper (4100) loses 0.

Spoils: , horse, 266 silver, 4 wood.

Impressive, huh? Congrats to the attackers. I guess I'm a dead man, (One unit
left).

What now? Anybody?

Regards

Dave

PS Avoid Cremona like the plague. The claim office seems to be a list of
viable targets.
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From: Tim Stuch <tstuch@du.edu>
Subject: Atlantis: Taxing
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 1995 11:28:10 -0600 (MDT)

> If 10 men with COM 2 tax a region, do they get $1000 silver because of their
> higher combat level or do they get only $500?
>

They only get $500.  Which is why you can make more money/man as a trade
faction.  It just takes a little longer to get to that point.

later

tim

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