ATLANTISv2 atl-players-digest #178

From: csd@microplex.com (Christian Daudt)

Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 00:00:00 +0000

Errors to csd@microplex.com
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or (b) whenever there is an email waiting for more than 48 hours
for a digest to be completed.
So don't get worried if the digest has only 1 or 2 emails, that
just means the list has been slow.
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From: Dave "Mack" McGaw <u3djm@csc.liv.ac.uk>
Subject: Mage question - again
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 16:47:57 +0000 (GMT)

Hello - It's Monday, and where would you be
without a spamm from me? (That rhymes!)

First off, thanx to all who answered the "Can't move mages unit number"
question - I think this needs chairing at the design-list in this case.  But ... I
have another for you ...

Two factions, both magic, both with 5 mages : Faction A and Faction B.

Now these two are great friends, and they each have two mages with the same
skills and they want to swap them over - Let's say Con and Eth for argument's
sake.

Faction A, wants to give unit 123 to Faction B, and Faction B wants to give
unit 456 to Faction A.

As a magic faction can't have more than 5 mages, they have to issue the give
at the same time, thus :

#Atlantis A
Unit 123
Cast "Pick Nose and Flick Booger"
Give 456 Unit
#End

#Atlantis B
Unit 456
Cast "Duck from Booger"
Give 123 Unit
#End

Now in theory THIS SHOULD WORK - but in reality, does it?

I would assume that the parser would check mage limits and reject them both.
 Is there anyway of swapping mages around?

Regards as ever

Mack
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From: Dave "Mack" McGaw <u3djm@csc.liv.ac.uk>
Subject: Mage isssue - Re : Question
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 17:17:36 +0000 (GMT)

Actually, thinking about it, mages are affectively being sh*t on in some
cases!

Firstly, if your leader unit (or non-leader unit for that matter) is the
target of an assassination, or is simply bored of the unit number, they can do the
following to change their number :

Unit 123

Form 1
Name Unit "New Guy"
End

Give New 1 1 LDR

and this will yield a new number for the unit.  Mages cannot give leaders so
they are stuck - even if they change their names around, they still have their
unit number.

Secondly, normal units can be passed aroud without a problem, mages have a
bitof trouble, which stems the flow of the teaching/studying/researching quite a
lot.  We can't use :

Unit 123

Give 456 Unit

if we both have our quota and are therefore stumped in switching mages. Left
only, with no alternative but to spend valuable time, money and expending the
use of a mage in the pursuit of grabbing the additional skills from the other
faction, when a simple GIVE UNIT would have been a better choice.

This is particularly harrowing when devising battles and teaching, where the
splitting of mages according to their skills (Fireballers to the battlefield
and the others to stay in a campus) is a necessity for a flow of the game.

Basically this means that it would be easier for all the studying mages to be
put in one place, and any fireballers GIVEN to another Magic faction who is
heading to the front.

This is NOT easily done!

So instead og griping - what do I propose?

Well how about this :

an intermediary faction to be set up, similar to the "Give 0" idea.

As we use "Give 0 Unit" to dispense a unit to the scrap heap - why not have
another "faction" which would HOLD the units until all the gives are evaluated,
then give the units back, thus

Unit 123
Give 1 Unit ; Give the "holding faction" the unit
Give 456 Unit ; Then give the unit to the faction owning unit 456 from "the
hold"

This would make the flow of mage exchange a lot easier and a lot fairer.  It
could also be incorporated into the reissuing of unit numbers :

Unit 123
Give 1 Unit ; into the hold!
Give New 1 Unit ; back to the New Unit, "New 1"

Form 1
Study Feetrubbing
End

Comments?  Implementation ...????

I live in hope!

Regards as ever

Mack
;)
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From: Dave "Mack" McGaw <u3djm@csc.liv.ac.uk>
Subject: Mage question - again
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 16:47:57 +0000 (GMT)