ATLANTISv2 atl-players-digest #199

From: csd@microplex.com (Christian Daudt)

Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 00:00:00 +0000

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Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 13:16:00 -0500 (EST)
From: jts <jts@dns.city-net.com>
Subject: Re: Atlantis: PCP vs. MAD

> >It's always amusing to us Pirates to see skirmishes between a couple hundred
> >soldiers trumpeted as world-altering events. M.A.D.'s an amusingly vocal foe,

This still doesn't answer the question: If the PCP are so powerful, how
can such a tiny alliance cause such a stir.  Maybe the PCP has 700 troops
to flush down the toilet and we can just chalk this up to bad management
of military resource?

> >But what's *really* got us Pirates PO'd is the devious, lying, traitorous
> >actions of Miriam and Ghurrgghh (707 and 711, faction numbers soon to be
> >retired), who now move from the Pirate's Roster to the list of Top Pirate

...Blah, blah, blah -simply replace with more empty threats.

>     They just got tired of the shabby treatment that you gave at the point
> of a sword.  Lesson here is you can't treat your allies like slaves.  What
> rotten things you must have done to them to cause such a response?

This is correct.  It also shows a PCP strategic weakness -they have the
moral lowground.

> >Probably after our successful occupation of the former Roman homelands, which
>
>     Oh... speaking of annoying, you keep talking about the occupation of the
> Roman homelands and yet you haven't pulled it off.  What's the matter, lost
> your drive?  Sound like the Romans are too much for you...

You know, I've been wondering the same thing.  Ooh, but let's not get them
too mad -maybe their egos will get so bruised that they'll rush in and
finish us off <shiver, shiver>.

Jack
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The Chthonian Order (73)
of the Axion Imperium
of the Republic of Rome
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From: Dave "Mack" McGaw <u3djm@csc.liv.ac.uk>
Subject: PCP
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 19:39:20 +0000 (GMT)

Me again throwing in a couple of penneths worth.

I've been hearing a lot about the PCP lately.  What's going on exactly?  I
remember back in year one when the major alliances kicked in : PCP, NAA, SCIO,
Komarken Alliance, Sledemere's little band of warriors, and no-one seemed to
even have a reputation.

I've heard recently about them getting double-crossed and was wondering
what'sgone on?

How did the PCP gain it's nasty reputation anyway, all I've ever heard is
that"Small faction deals PCP defeat" every couple of turns, and it's been like
that since day one!

I've therefore got a couple of questions for the World then, :

1) What's going on with this PCP lot?
2) Where did they get this "We're Dead Hard" Rep?
3) How are they "The Bad Guys?"

Any suggestions?

Regards as ever
                               //////
Dave "Mack" McGaw             ( o o )          u3djm@csc.liv.ac.uk
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Ted  : "The only true knowledge lies in knowing you know nothing!"
Bill : "That's US, dude!!!"
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Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 14:52:36 -0500
From: lam@diamond.eng.tridom.com (Larry Morris)
Subject: Re: Atlantis: PCP vs. MAD

Crimson Robes, just responding to all the bad press ;-)

> This still doesn't answer the question: If the PCP are so powerful, how
> can such a tiny alliance cause such a stir.  Maybe the PCP has 700 troops
> to flush down the toilet and we can just chalk this up to bad management
> of military resource?

Mostly trash troops, isolated desert location in monsoon, whacked our portal.
Axion hasn't counted up the RoR skeletons lately, or they're not tellin' ;-)
Mutants, though, you *really* have to work on that immortality potion thing.
Needs more rum, perhaps? ;-)

> This is correct.  It also shows a PCP strategic weakness -they have the
> moral lowground.

We try ;-)  Morality's such a darn *relative* thing in a bloodthirsty rock'n'rollin'
Atlantis game. Maybe we insulted Miriam's mom or something, and those Ghuurrgh's
were never big on intelligent vocalizations. Maybe they just didn't like the deck-
swabbin' duty?

> >     Oh... speaking of annoying, you keep talking about the occupation of the
> > Roman homelands and yet you haven't pulled it off.  What's the matter, lost
> > your drive?  Sound like the Romans are too much for you...
>
> You know, I've been wondering the same thing.  Ooh, but let's not get them
> too mad -maybe their egos will get so bruised that they'll rush in and
> finish us off <shiver, shiver>.

Great skin-bits, guys! We only got just so many pikes to stick yer heads on! It's
winter, it's cold, these d*mn fluffy shirts let the snow in, yer freakin' tundra
witch keeps making blizzards...how can ya *stand* this place!? And hey, 9 regions
in 3 turns ain't too slack for winter. Now quit pillaging all those plains! It shows
lack of confidence ;-)

Hoag the Beastlord.
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Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 17:48:33 -0500 (EST)
From: jts <jts@dns.city-net.com>
Subject: Re: Atlantis: PCP vs. MAD

> Mostly trash troops, isolated desert location in monsoon, whacked our portal.
> Axion hasn't counted up the RoR skeletons lately, or they're not tellin' ;-)
> Mutants, though, you *really* have to work on that immortality potion thing.
> Needs more rum, perhaps? ;-)

Excuses, excuses.  As far as I can tell, we have lost about half in
Stinchar what the PCP has lost in Jaca.  In fact, I've lost less than
half a dozen scouts.

> > This is correct.  It also shows a PCP strategic weakness -they have the
> > moral lowground.
>
> We try ;-)  Morality's such a darn *relative* thing in a bloodthirsty rock'n'rollin'
> Atlantis game. Maybe we insulted Miriam's mom or something, and those Ghuurrgh's
> were never big on intelligent vocalizations. Maybe they just didn't like the deck-
> swabbin' duty?

My case in point.

> Great skin-bits, guys! We only got just so many pikes to stick yer heads on! It's
> winter, it's cold, these d*mn fluffy shirts let the snow in, yer freakin' tundra
> witch keeps making blizzards...how can ya *stand* this place!? And hey, 9 regions
> in 3 turns ain't too slack for winter. Now quit pillaging all those plains! It shows
> lack of confidence ;-)

I'm sure you have a lot of pikes, but I think you're going to be
surprised to find whose heads are them.

The pillaging really bothers you, huh?

Jack
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The Chthonian Order (73)
of the Axion Imperium
of the Republic of Rome
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Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 20:59:49 -0700
From: aqw@itsnet.com (Aerron)
Subject: study hours

This list is of *Total* study hours
851004

S. Justin (6 days stirling)

riding 113
survival (plains) 60
survival (forest) 34
survival (desert) 14
survival (acid swamp) 4
survival (caverns) 4
research 1
admin 15
interrigation 6
lance 16
french 30
accounting 70
theology (elven) 7
orienteering 8
stealth 8(spent points)
1st aid 2
cartography 4
scrounging 1
tactics 3
hiking 42
sparing (sword shield brawling other) 8
orcish 2
history (sterling) 29
intimidation 1
teaching 5
hebrew 8
tracking 36
Strategy (land/tl3) 4
savoir-faire 9

Squire Ahrian (4 days Defiant/14 days stirling)

riding 116
survival (plains) 50
survival (forest) 36
survival (desert) 14
survival (acid swamp) 4
survival (caverns) 4
tracking 16
orienteering 14
theology (elven) 7
stealth 15
armory 1
breath control 10
heraldry 20 (by Justin)
tactics 1
hiking 40
sparing (sword shield brawling other) 8
orcish 20
teaching 1
interogation 1
scrounging 4
savoir-faire 1

Alvin (14 days stirling)

Hiking 64
survival (plains) 40
survival (forest) 8
survival (desert) 14
survival (acid swamp) 4
survival (cavewrns) 4
teamster 69
stealth 14
crossbow 27
tactics 1
scrounging 8
armory 16
carosing 1
savoir-faire 2
theology (elven) 1
teaching 5

Kiern

survival (plains) 41
survival (forest) 2
survival (desert) 14
survival (acid swamp) 4
survival (caverns) 4
spell study 7 (own spells)
enchant 4
stealth 13
hiking 45
theology (xxxxxxxxx) 27
tactics 1
teaching 25
hebrew 6
crossbow 20
alchemy 20
??? 10 (taught by pochutii)

S. Evan (4 days defiant/14 days stirling)
sparing (sword shield brawling other) 8
survival (plains) 35
survival (acid swamp) 4
survival (caverns) 4
survival (forest) 6
survival (desert) 7
tactics 1
hiking 40
scrounging 6
stealth 5
armory 1
reading 8
savoir-faire 3
teaching 9
riding 40

Pochutii (14days stirling)
orckish 10
survival (acid swamp) 4
survival (caverns) 4
survival (plains) 27
survival (forest) 6
survival (desert) 7
tactics 1
hiking 42
scrounging 2
stealth 5
food finding 3
breath control 26
teaching 10
banking (taught by chotee) 17
bard 11
cooking 7

Matt (14 days stirling)
savior-faire 1
survival (forest) 2
survival (plians) 2
riding 12
teaching 1

Galeb (14 days stirling)
survival (forest) 2
survival (plians) 2

FOOD:
Dried Meat 95
Bread 228
Forage 0
Fresh Meat 0
SUGAR 25
corned beef 8
sardines 44
powdered milk 40
guadana 31

HORSE FOOD:
290

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Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 21:52:41 -0700
From: aqw@itsnet.com (Aerron)
Subject: Re: study hours

At 08:59 PM 1/18/96 -0700, Aerron wrote:
>This list is of *Total* study hours
>851004
OOPS, wrong list sorry

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From: "Jiri Klouda" <KLOUDA@novell.karlin.mff.cuni.cz>
Date:          Fri, 19 Jan 1996 08:41:35
Subject:       Teaching in AC (Magic)

I teach in AC magic foundations. 6 free slots $50 each
ENE 5,NAT 3,CON 3,ETH 2,BOD 2,MND 2,LIF 1

Zarya Guilde
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Jiri Klouda - Student of Faculty of Maths at Charles University
mail:klouda@novell.karlin.mff.cuni.cz
http://www.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~klouda
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From: "Jiri Klouda" <KLOUDA@novell.karlin.mff.cuni.cz>
Date:          Fri, 19 Jan 1996 08:18:12
Subject:       Re: PCP

->I've therefore got a couple of questions for the World then, :
->
->1) What's going on with this PCP lot?
->2) Where did they get this "We're Dead Hard" Rep?
->3) How are they "The Bad Guys?"
When anyone wipe out me and my two friends from piecefull life in
Jaca during corespondence about cooperation you await that I say that
this is 'a good guy' ???
 When someone comes with all forces through portal in place when
other lives and enjoys from the game and without warning kills all
their units I shall say that he's good ???
 I and many others want some kind of revenge. And I get it.

If someone comes says that he is the mighties in region and who don't
want be wiped can flee, than I say: 'All right'

So I train my troops for only one fight. Fight with Pirates which
killed so many of our units. I will fight until last my unit will
live in this World.

Arnatar the leader of
                          Zarya Guilde

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Jiri Klouda - Student of Faculty of Maths at Charles University
mail:klouda@novell.karlin.mff.cuni.cz
http://www.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~klouda
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From: "Jiri Klouda" <KLOUDA@novell.karlin.mff.cuni.cz>
Date:          Fri, 19 Jan 1996 08:18:12
Subject:       Re: PCP

If someone comes says that he is the mighties in region and who don't
want be wiped can flee, than I say: 'All right'

So I train my troops for only one fight. Fight with Pirates which
killed so many of our units. I will fight until last my unit will
live in this World.

Arnatar the leader of
                          Zarya Guilde

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Jiri Klouda - Student of Faculty of Maths at Charles University
mail:klouda@novell.karlin.mff.cuni.cz
http://www.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~klouda
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From: Adrian Smith <fon@iinet.net.au>
Subject: Re: Atlantis: PCP vs. MAD
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 16:25:58 +0800 (WST)

> > Mostly trash troops, isolated desert location in monsoon, whacked our portal.
> > Axion hasn't counted up the RoR skeletons lately, or they're not tellin' ;-)
> > Mutants, though, you *really* have to work on that immortality potion thing.
> > Needs more rum, perhaps? ;-)
>
> Excuses, excuses.  As far as I can tell, we have lost about half in
> Stinchar what the PCP has lost in Jaca.  In fact, I've lost less than
> half a dozen scouts.
>
Incorrect. This turn, I killed three times as many troops as I lost,
and recruited over three times as many again. I lost two tac5 around Jaca,
and killed over a dozen of yours in Stinchar. Bet that hurt.

> > > This is correct.  It also shows a PCP strategic weakness -they have the
> > > moral lowground.
> >
> > We try ;-)  Morality's such a darn *relative* thing in a bloodthirsty rock'n'rollin'
> > Atlantis game. Maybe we insulted Miriam's mom or something, and those Ghuurrgh's
> > were never big on intelligent vocalizations. Maybe they just didn't like the deck-
> > swabbin' duty?
>
> My case in point.
>
Exactly. Whenever I have made a promise in Atlantis I have kept it.
I have not attacked unless attacked first myself (or ignored).

I remember your promise to get off my shores .. it looks like you are going
to keep that one, though not of your own choice.

Just remember, Romans, there was not one mutant scum in your lands (not even
a fishing boat) until I saw your armies tromping around my shores.

> Jack
> ------------------------
> The Chthonian Order (73)
> of the Axion Imperium
> of the Republic of Rome
> ------------------------
>

Adrian
Mutant Black Robes (44) of the PCP