The Midgard Digest V1 #7 From: kerry@io.com (Kerry Harrison) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 00:00:00 +0000 The Midgard Digest Friday, 23 February 1996 Volume 01 : Number 007 Welcome to the Midgard Digest, the place to discuss all the myriad aspects of life in the World of Midgard with its other denizens. In this issue: + Re: MID: RE: Extension of Imperial Decree I + MID: MISUNDERSTANDINGS + Re: MID: MISUNDERSTANDINGS + MID: Re: Imp.-Barb + Re[2]: MID: Re: Imp.-Barb + Re[2]: MID: MISUNDERSTANDINGS + MID: Address change, sort of + MID: A damn nice idea... freedom of speech! + Re: MID: A damn nice idea... freedom of speech! + MID: Waiting.... + [none] + Re: MID: Waiting.... + MID: Re: + MID: skills + Re: MID: skills + Re[2]: MID: skills + MID: Re[2]: Midgard Address See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the midgard-list or midgard-digest mailing lists. For additional information on Midgard, check out the Official Midgard Home Page at http://www.comland.com/~pbm/midgard/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kerry Harrison <kerry@io.com> Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 20:34:06 -0600 Subject: Re: MID: RE: Extension of Imperial Decree I Jay Seymour wrote: > I'm curious, when did the Imperials buy Midgard? Did they get a good price? I > was thinking of buying a little hamlet on the coast, how much would that cost? > How much does the right to dictate law go for these days? Who's diety died and > left the Imperials in charge? Oh, wait, that may have been Morlock, except he > only THINKS hes in charge, so that deed to Midgard might not be valid. Besides, > Morlock's deed was written in Crayola. The Imperials didn't buy Midgard, they conquered us - read your history for a change, sellsword. Lord Cameron ------------------------------------------------------------ * Kerry Harrison | kerry@io.com | http://www.io.com/~kerry * ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ From: Shiva Wilde <103302.3555@compuserve.com> Date: 12 Feb 96 18:59:27 EST Subject: MID: MISUNDERSTANDINGS Greetings Mighty Lords, I would like to clear up a misunderstanding. In my last message I was NOT asking for Imperial assistance for the murder of my solders at Finmart. I WAS asking if the Lord Governor would also condemn the acts of the Blood & Fire as he did with other factions. Also in response to Dragons tooth comments, First IT was YOU who asked me for tearms for peace. Second, you did not give me a counter offer once I had give you my offer. I ASKED you if I could have time to retake the cities. IT WAS YOU who told my that I would have until cycle 34 to retake the cities. And as far as the price on your head, I told you that I would remove that AS SOON as we had a cease fire in place. But now I think that I will rase the price for you to 2,000,000 crowns plus 500 retainers, and a replacement of any CLAN retainers lost while trying to catch you (NOT factional troops.). It is death that YOU want, and it shall be YOUR death that that you will get. As far as the Ring using other factions to do our durity work for us. Your right, we do ask other factions to support us in military actions. So what. They ask us for aid also. We have learned to help each other and work as a united team. I would like to also point out, and use the Lord Governors reason for our actions. I have not been in this position very long and will not be responsable for the actions of the Patriarch that was before me. NOR will I condemn his actions, as I was not in his position at that time. I did try to stop the attack on Fangland, but was too late to do so. I will also not take resopnsibility for the actions of the Merk Verk at Fangland. The MV clans, as far as I am concerned, did not follow the contract and are at fault for the destruction of Fangland. When I learned that the MV were offered tearms for surrender by the city, and the MV DID NOT accept. They voided our contract then and there. I wish the MV Clan leaders to be punnished for their action. I do not blame the entire faction for the actions of a few clans. The CLANS are wanted by the Ring, Not the faction. As far as current Ring military policy. Here it is: The Ring will no longer use military force or forces to convert people to the TRUE path. We will use our ability to educate the people of Midgard. This does not mean that we will sit by and watch a clan or faction harm the people of Midgard. We will use our Highly Trained military to defend the people of Midgard. We will also ask for assistance from other friendly faction to assist us. Thank you Mighty Lords for your time PATRIARCH RING RELIGION SHIVA WILDE of Clan ORDER OF THE HAND <<<<<<<<PLEASE INCLUDE IN THE MIDGARD REPORT>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ From: Hideyori@aol.com Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 10:22:19 -0500 Subject: Re: MID: MISUNDERSTANDINGS Let it be known that any faction that takes action against the Blood and Fire will be open to attack by the Blood and Fire!! Those that stand with the Ring will be buried with the Ring. Mass graves are easier to dig. Eldarion, Blood and Fire #1 ------------------------------ From: Mike_Williams@pc.radian.com Date: Tue, 13 Feb 96 18:59:42 CDT Subject: MID: Re: Imp.-Barb Hi Brian! You said: > Mike, > I see that you are very much angry and against the Imperials you > have made that clear and of course my #4 has been bantering back with > you. I'm not angry with anyone. My character, Todeskampf, is though! <g> And, BTW, bantering is fun. > My question is why all this sudden aggression at the Imperials and more > importantly your avid support of the MV. I and the barbarian faction have ALWAYS had it in for the Imperials. One of your goals is to hunt down and destroy us. Your faction has declared the barbarians as an enemy; if you make a public announcement that you no longer consider us an enemy then the barbarians would probably stop engaging you in combat... Probably. As for the Merc Verk, how does the old saying go: "The enemy of my enemy is my friend." I will only support the Merc Verk in a battle if I spot them being engaged by Imperials. Otherwise I will allow them to pass in peace--at least until they re-make their peace with you and your kind. > Your factional goals (unless they have changed) according to the > rulebook, don't say anything about going after Imperial, coastal cities, > yes, Imperials, no. If anything, it would seem to me that you should be > harassing the Religious factions according to your goals. The cool thing about being a barbarian is you can do just about anything you want--each clan is free to pursue his own agenda; the factional goals are for the barbarian faction in general. The model (# 0) really hates the Imperials; in almost every communication with the model, Todeskampf is asked what has he done lately to the Imperial dogs in Midgard. I personally have nothing against them, but the # 0 is Todeskampf's father, and I've always wanted to live up to my dad's standards... <g> > Similarly, the Boda have to antagonize the Imperials but we have no > directives against them. The Imperials have to antagonize the Barbarians > but you have no similar directives against us. Now don't get me wrong, > if you want to fight us that's great, at least we won't have to sail out > to you. I look forward to the mighty battles which may occur. As do I. > I'm simply interested in understanding WHY your doing this since I > fail to see the precedent in the factional goals of the Barbarians? > Brian WHY? Because I am a barbarian. I am chaos. I sail where the winds wish, then I destroy. For am I not Todeskampf, the Great Destroyer? Did not Moorlock put you into this world for me to kill? "Factional goals? Factional goals? We don't NEED no stinkin' Factional Goals!!" ------------------------------ From: Mike_Williams@pc.radian.com Date: Wed, 14 Feb 96 12:26:43 CDT Subject: Re[2]: MID: Re: Imp.-Barb Oh, my. The great Moorlock himself speaks to me?!? My lord, you can expect an extra boat-load of infidel sacrifices at our next city burning! Todeskampf Great Destroyer ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: MID: Re: Imp.-Barb Author: USAMIDGARD@aol.com at INTERNET Date: 2/13/96 7:26 PM In a message dated 96-02-13 19:09:51 EST, you write: Mike, >WHY? Because I am a barbarian. I am chaos. I sail where the winds wish, >then I destroy. For am I not Todeskampf, the Great Destroyer? Did not Moorlock >put you into this world for me to kill? > >"Factional goals? Factional goals? We don't NEED no stinkin' Factional Goals!!" And an eloquent Barbarian at that!! I love it!! Well said! Zan ------------------------------ From: Mike_Williams@pc.radian.com Date: Thu, 15 Feb 96 09:48:55 CDT Subject: Re[2]: MID: MISUNDERSTANDINGS The barbarians stand ready with their shovels! Todeskampf Great Destroyer ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: MID: MISUNDERSTANDINGS Author: Hideyori@aol.com at INTERNET Date: 2/13/96 9:40 AM Let it be known that any faction that takes action against the Blood and Fire will be open to attack by the Blood and Fire!! Those that stand with the Ring will be buried with the Ring. Mass graves are easier to dig. Eldarion, Blood and Fire #1 ------------------------------ From: Jay Seymour <jay.seymour@wichita.brite.com> Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 10:44:00 -0600 Subject: MID: Address change, sort of Hi, my e-mail address has changed. It is now (and sort of always was): jay.seymour@wichita.brite.com Can you please get that changed on the Midgard mailing list? Thanks, J ------------------------------ From: Shiva Wilde <103302.3555@compuserve.com> Date: 18 Feb 96 23:44:38 EST Subject: MID: A damn nice idea... freedom of speech! Greetings fellow players, I thought that I would send this to the list due to the fact that it has to do with this list. I have been out of touch with the news latley, but think that this is important. I AM NOT TURING THIS LIST IN TO A POLITICAL FORM, but thought that you may wish to see this. Thank you for your time, Kurt Mullins - --- Forwarded Message --- Date: 18-Feb-96 21:15 CST From: "Bob" > INTERNET:friend1@minn.net Subj: A damn nice idea... freedom of speech! Sender: friend1@minn.net Received: from T-REX.Minn.Net (T-Rex.Minn.Net [204.157.201.3]) by arl-img-4.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.950515) id WAA01017; Sun, 18 Feb 1996 22:14:15 -0500 Received: from dialup-75.Minn.Net (dialup-75.Minn.Net [204.157.201.75]) by T-REX.Minn.Net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA15310; Sun, 18 Feb 1996 21:23:27 -0600 Message-Id: <199602190323.VAA15310@T-REX.Minn.Net> Comments: Authenticated sender is <friend1@minn.net> From: "Bob" <friend1@minn.net> To: 70003.6050@compuserve.com, hz24@dial.pipex.com, noman@minn.net, Kurt Mullins <103302.3555@compuserve.com>, jnelson@minn.net, Lovey@op.net, kathy@ablle.demon.co.uk, jhally@hooked.net, zellgreg@mwt.net, 75702.3032@compuserve.com, chicky@eskimo.com, me <doc@im4u.net>, rusinr01@tigger.stcloud.msus.edu Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 21:15:29 +0000 Subject: A damn nice idea... freedom of speech! X-Confirm-Reading-To: "Bob" <friend1@minn.net> X-pmrqc: 1 Return-receipt-to: "Bob" <friend1@minn.net> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Subject: A damn nice idea... freedom of speech! To whoever may read this, This is not a typical chain letter, in that by passing it on to as many people as you can, you are taking part in what may yet become the world's biggest practical joke. The U.S. Government has recently passed an act which enforces censorship on the internet. A group of internet users has now come together to kick back at this oppression, and have a bit of fun at the same time. The aim of this exercise is to re-establish the United States as "The land of the Free", not a fascist state where freedom of speech and thought are curtailed. Communist Russia fell as a result of such limits being placed upon the minds of the general populus. On receiving this letter, please pass it on to as many friends or E-mail lists as you can. We predict that if everybody copies the letter to 5 other addresses, by February 29th 1996, this letter should have reached in excess of 2 million people. That's when the fun begins........ On February 29th, please send the following message to: President@Whitehouse.gov By sending the letter on the date above, you will contribute to either one huge petition for freedom, or else lead to a crash of the whitehouse server. Remember that solidarity is the key to success Here is the letter; - --- Cut this out and mail it President@Whitehouse.gov on 29th Feb --- Dear Mr. President, Do you remember this: THE BILL OF RIGHTS Amendment I Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances. Amendment II A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed. Amendment III No soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law. Amendment IV The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. Amendment V No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation. Amendment VI In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense. Amendment VII In suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise reexamined in any court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law. Amendment VIII Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted. Amendment IX The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people. Amendment X The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people. - ----- End Included Message ----- **The sum of existence is the magic of being needed :) ** Distribution: To: [70003,6050] [75702,3032] Kurt Mullins > [103302,3555] INTERNET:CHICKY@ESKIMO.COM me > INTERNET:DOC@IM4U.NET INTERNET:HZ24@DIAL.PIPEX.COM INTERNET:JHALLY@HOOKED.NET INTERNET:JNELSON@MINN.NET INTERNET:KATHY@ABLLE.DEMON.CO.UK INTERNET:LOVEY@OP.NET INTERNET:NOMAN@MINN.NET INTERNET:ZELLGREG@MWT.NET INTERNET:RUSINR01@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU ------------------------------ From: DShir13@aol.com Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 09:16:19 -0500 Subject: Re: MID: A damn nice idea... freedom of speech! What?? ------------------------------ From: SCHRADER@vaxd.sxu.edu Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 16:44:57 -0600 (CST) Subject: MID: Waiting.... The calm before the storm?! ------------------------------ From: Hideyori@aol.com Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 10:25:56 -0500 Subject: [none] t skills for your leaders? How much of anything do you have to do in order to get a skill? Terry ------------------------------ From: Mike_Williams@pc.radian.com Date: Wed, 21 Feb 96 13:08:57 CDT Subject: Re: MID: Waiting.... More like the calm before the mother of all hurricanes... todie ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: MID: Waiting.... Author: SCHRADER@vaxd.sxu.edu at INTERNET Date: 2/20/96 11:18 PM The calm before the storm?! ------------------------------ From: Mike_Williams@pc.radian.com Date: Wed, 21 Feb 96 18:23:58 CDT Subject: MID: Re: Your message was chopped off a bit (the barbarians deny all culpability in this matter...). My guess is that the skills module hasn't been incorporated into the system yet, but when it is, I think I read in one of the past Midgard Reports that you'll have to send your leader/followers to a university in order to get regular skill increases. I'm sure that you can gain skills through experience, too, though. I mean, do you think a barbarian would be allowed to register for school anywhere in Midgard? And if they _were_ allowed to enroll at the university, how long do you think it would be before a series of inexplicable fires and vandalism destroyed said university... <g> Some clan leaders and followers already have skills that were probably given to them by the past owners of Midgard; I know that a couple of my clans have "Level 15 Cruelty." They also have skills like "Navigation," "Command," and similar skills. I can't wait to see what "combat bonuses" these skills give when the skill system is fully functional... <g> mike/todie ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Author: Hideyori@aol.com at INTERNET Date: 2/21/96 9:28 AM t skills for your leaders? How much of anything do you have to do in order to get a skill? Terry ------------------------------ From: Hideyori@aol.com Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 12:02:16 -0500 Subject: MID: skills Sorry for the last message. Not quite sure what happened... The question is: What does it take to get skills for your leaders or followers? ------------------------------ From: Mike_Williams@pc.radian.com Date: Thu, 22 Feb 96 18:50:54 CDT Subject: Re: MID: skills I'm pretty sure that Zan will give you skill increases as a result of your actions. If you stay at sea for a couple of cycles, you might see your navigation skill go up. Each battle you fight in might see your command or tactics skill increase, etc. But one of the major ways of gaining skill increases will, I think, be from receiving formal instruction from a university in a city... Zan, am I kinda sorta close on this? mike ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: MID: skills Author: Hideyori@aol.com at INTERNET Date: 2/22/96 11:23 AM Sorry for the last message. Not quite sure what happened... The question is: What does it take to get skills for your leaders or followers? ------------------------------ From: Mike_Williams@pc.radian.com Date: Fri, 23 Feb 96 14:20:58 CDT Subject: Re[2]: MID: skills Guys: I'm forwarding this reply from Zan to the list. mike ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: MID: skills Author: USAMIDGARD@aol.com at INTERNET Date: 2/23/96 11:01 AM Mike, In a message dated 96-02-22 21:01:40 EST, you write: > I'm pretty sure that Zan will give you skill increases as a result of > your actions. If you stay at sea for a couple of cycles, you might > see your navigation skill go up. Each battle you fight in might see > your command or tactics skill increase, etc. But one of the major > ways of gaining skill increases will, I think, be from receiving > formal instruction from a university in a city... > > Zan, am I kinda sorta close on this? Generally speaking, you must train under someone with greater skill. On The Job Training is possible but much slower. Experience is OF COURSE the best teacher. Zan ------------------------------ From: Mike_Williams@pc.radian.com Date: Fri, 23 Feb 96 14:25:02 CDT Subject: MID: Re[2]: Midgard Address Once again, Zan speaks! mike ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Midgard Address Author: ZAN ERSKINE <73162.463@compuserve.com> at INTERNET Date: 2/23/96 12:37 PM Mike, > Zan, once again correct me on this, but I think that ONLY maps of > Midgard (regions A-1 south to A-12 all the way through regions F-1 > south to F-12) are available for sale. In order to obtain maps of > Kalmar, Manchuria, Imperial homeland, etc., you will have to obtain > them from other players or go exploring. <g> You are correct... the only maps available for general sale are A-1 through F-12 which is the continent of Midgard. These maps are generally available to any who want them through the grapevine, so I admit it, we hope to make a small buck.. profit is one of the objectives here. > Midgard is divided into four quadrants, and map sets of each of these > quadrants sell for $10 each. So, you save $10 by purchasing the whole > package. <g> Gee, you must have gone to high school before the NEW AND IMPROVED education system took hold. Simple math ... 4 quadrants x 10.00 equals $40.00, or you can have the entire set for $30.00. Some people only wanted the specific area they were in, so we agreed to provide same, but there is that bear of mailing cost to overcome. > Midgard is not the whole world. Midgard is just the continent where > all the "common" factions reside. The main continent is called Midgard. For what it is worth, so is the planet. The planet is an earth type in a binary star system. There is much more history to this world that has never been revealed. Some of the original has been modified or destroyed with the various sales; however, as the days go on, we try to return it to the original concept. John C. Muir has been a great help. > Zan: how do you mail out a complete Midgard map set? Is the map all > on one sheet, or is the package you send just a "standard" print out > of all the Midgard maps? If the map set is all on one sheet, it must > be huge! <g> Well, actually we put all 72 Maps in one envelope and mail it to you. There is another map that is just a sketch of what all 72 look like and it is included as well. A small version of it was in the Midgard Report last time, or time before. Zan ------------------------------ End of The Midgard Digest V1 #7 ******************************* To subscribe to The Midgard Digest, send the command: subscribe midgard-digest in the body of a message to "majordomo@io.com" To unsubscribe from The Midgard Digest send the command: unsubscribe midgard-digest in the body of a message to "majordomo@io.com" If you want to subscribe something other than the account the mail is coming from, such as a local redistribution list, then append that address to the "subscribe" command; for example, to subscribe "local-midgard-list": subscribe midgard-digest local-mid-list@your.domain.net A non-digest (direct mail) version of this list is also available; to subscribe to that instead, replace all instances of "midgard-digest" in the commands above with "midgard-list". Up