The Midgard Digest V1 #15 From: kerry@io.com (Kerry Harrison) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 00:00:00 +0000 The Midgard Digest Wednesday, 13 March 1996 Volume 01 : Number 015 Welcome to the Midgard Digest, the place to discuss all the myriad aspects of life in the World of Midgard with its other denizens. In this issue: + MID: Thank you for the laugh + MID: Treaty OF Frostmarch + Re: MID: Thank you for the laugh + FW: MID: Thank you for the laugh + MID: Missing + Re: MID: Treaty OF Frostmarch + Re[2]: MID: Thank you for the laugh + Re: MID: Missing + Re: MID: Missing + Re[2]: MID: Ring standings + RE: Re[2]: MID: Ring standings + Re: RE: Re[2]: MID: Ring standings + Re: RE: Re[2]: MID: Ring standings + Re: Re[2]: MID: Ring standings + MID: Fwd: Almost forgot the jokes! + RE: MID: Fwd: Almost forgot the jokes! + MID: Poins + Re: MID: Poins + MID: Re:Poins + Re: MID: Re:Poins + [none] + MID: T E S T + MID: Player Quantity See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the midgard-list or midgard-digest mailing lists. For additional information on Midgard, check out the Official Midgard Home Page at http://www.comland.com/~pbm/midgard/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jmorris@ccm.livestock.org.nz Date: Thu, 07 Mar 96 11:42:50 nz Subject: MID: Thank you for the laugh David I hope you truly believe everything you wrote. Keep sending out your hilarious replies. Jerre ------------------------------ From: DShir13@aol.com Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 09:20:38 -0500 Subject: MID: Treaty OF Frostmarch All, Has anyone read the treaty lately? Daimon Yar. ------------------------------ From: DShir13@aol.com Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 09:23:25 -0500 Subject: Re: MID: Thank you for the laugh O.K. Jerre, What would it take for the Banner and the Imperials to start fighting? David ------------------------------ From: Jay Seymour <jay.seymour@wichita.brite.com> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 09:00:00 -0600 Subject: FW: MID: Thank you for the laugh Is it me, or do the Imperials seem a little edgy? Well, I guess I can't blame them. If practically the whole world was against me, I might be edgy too. J ---------- From: DShir13 To: jmorris; Midgard-list Subject: Re: MID: Thank you for the laugh Date: Thursday, March 07, 1996 8:28AM O.K. Jerre, What would it take for the Banner and the Imperials to start fighting? David ------------------------------ From: "Petonak, Paul M'bio" <paulp@microbio.LIFESCI.UCLA.EDU> Date: Thu, 07 Mar 96 09:31:00 PST Subject: MID: Missing All this conversation of a treaty? I think the mailer did not get to me. If someone has a copy please pass it along. PPaul ------------------------------ From: Mike_Williams@pc.radian.com Date: Thu, 07 Mar 96 18:36:05 CDT Subject: Re: MID: Treaty OF Frostmarch I think Krang found the treaty in the ruins of a city he once conquered; he was running low on T.P. and, well, you can imagine what use he put the paper the treaty was written on... All other "Frostmarch Treaties" floating around out there are nothing but copies and should not be honored. Todeskampf Great Destroyer ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: MID: Treaty OF Frostmarch Author: DShir13@aol.com at INTERNET Date: 3/7/96 8:27 AM All, Has anyone read the treaty lately? Daimon Yar. ------------------------------ From: Mike_Williams@pc.radian.com Date: Thu, 07 Mar 96 18:41:12 CDT Subject: Re[2]: MID: Thank you for the laugh The same thing it took for the Imperials and the Merc Verk (plus a couple or three other factions) to start fighting... Imperial dogs who think they can go around taking everyone's cities for no reason other than greed. The key has turned, Imperial, and you will soon find yourself locked out in the cold. Frightening, isn't it? Todeskampf Great Destroyer ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: MID: Thank you for the laugh Author: DShir13@aol.com at INTERNET Date: 3/7/96 8:28 AM O.K. Jerre, What would it take for the Banner and the Imperials to start fighting? David ------------------------------ From: Mike_Williams@pc.radian.com Date: Thu, 07 Mar 96 18:50:04 CDT Subject: Re: MID: Missing You _really_ don't want to see the treaty after Krang has already used it, do you? Might be kinda hard to read, you know... Todeskampf ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: MID: Missing Author: "Petonak, Paul M'bio" <paulp@microbio.LIFESCI.UCLA.EDU> at INTERNET Date: 3/7/96 9:31 AM All this conversation of a treaty? I think the mailer did not get to me. If someone has a copy please pass it along. PPaul ------------------------------ From: Kerry Harrison <kerry@io.com> Date: Thu, 07 Mar 1996 18:58:02 -0600 Subject: Re: MID: Missing Petonak, Paul M'bio wrote: > > All this conversation of a treaty? I think the mailer did not get to > me. If someone has a copy please pass it along. You're not missing anything - it's just been quite of late. ------------------------------------------------------------ * Kerry Harrison | kerry@io.com | http://www.io.com/~kerry * ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ From: Mike_Williams@pc.radian.com Date: Thu, 07 Mar 96 20:45:00 CDT Subject: Re[2]: MID: Ring standings > And Barbarian you accuse me of being a liar and bring of a couple of > skirmishes that you claim we're great victories. I did not leave > these out by mistake I just considered them to be petty. No more > challenging that brushing ones teeth in the Morning. So _that's_ why Imperials have so many cavities... > If the Barbarians consider these to be great victories then I have > overestimated them. I gave these battles as evidence that you lied when you said that we barbarians hadn't done anything in recent cycles past other than destroying a weak Getham city. Even the lowliest of the barbarian clans following the Banner of Todeskampf have won more victories in battle than _you_ ever will. > First of all, they achieved no objective nor had any purpose. You do not understand us at all. Our objective is to kill Imperials. That is its own purpose. > What advantage did this give the Barbarians, besides some trinkets to > take home and providing some fish food to the local sharks. We captured several dozen frigates and over 100 sloops. Todeskampf now uses these ships as fire ships in battle. Also, he plans on keeping a few of them around as trophies. > The Imperial commander you faced was inept as was the Governor of Midgard > at the time. Speaking ill of the dead. May Moorlock curse you! > HIs battle fleet was inadaquite to take on such a foe and he should > of never ingaged the Barbarians, expecially with some much HI at sea. > This was no great victory! Well, what must we do to impress you? Kill every Imperial on Midgard? Well...okay! > My grandmother could of pulled it off.. I don't wish to hear about your relationship with your kin. Keep your Imperial debauchery in your homeland! > And for your Victory over the Serks who, eventhough they had a couple > of victories over the Merk Verk, are not warriors. And I would figure > such as you would not consider this as anything more than a slaughter > which should of happened. The soldiers of the Blood and Fire are set ablaze by the fire of Moorlock; they are Midgard's finest fighters. We are proud of the fact that we did not end their power on Midgard during our "encounter." > I tell you this Barbarians the Empire sleeps no more! and I can see that > worries you. Hah! Nothing worries a barbarian! And I'm glad you announced to the world that the Empire was awake--we wouldn't have noticed had you not said so. ------------------------------ From: "Petonak, Paul M'bio" <paulp@microbio.LIFESCI.UCLA.EDU> Date: Fri, 08 Mar 96 20:11:00 PST Subject: RE: Re[2]: MID: Ring standings --Ok, I am _absolutely_ certain that the mailer missed me this time. I have no record of the message that Mike is refering to here coming ot me. Kerry, please check this if you have the time. If it was sent then the problem is probably on my end, which would definetely not be unusual knowing my departments mailing system. > If the Barbarians consider these to be great victories then I have > overestimated them. I gave these battles as evidence that you lied when you said that we barbarians hadn't done anything in recent cycles past other than destroying a weak Getham city. Even the lowliest of the barbarian clans following the Banner of Todeskampf have won more victories in battle than _you_ ever will. --Given the age of the clans this inevitably true. > First of all, they achieved no objective nor had any purpose. You do not understand us at all. Our objective is to kill Imperials. That is its own purpose. --Geez, he's a barbarian! Who says he has to have an objective. > What advantage did this give the Barbarians, besides some trinkets to > take home and providing some fish food to the local sharks. We captured several dozen frigates and over 100 sloops. Todeskampf now uses these ships as fire ships in battle. Also, he plans on keeping a few of them around as trophies. --2) it was probably fun 3) it gained clan experience 4) some of the citizens killed were probably Imperial citizens 5) exercise for the troops 6) Blood & Fire graphitti on city walls was an eye sore 7) one less city to build a legate in 8) Getham city leaders foot odor could be smelled miles away 9) every city treasury in the Trials of Worth counts you need more? > The Imperial commander you faced was inept as was the Governor of Midgard > at the time. Speaking ill of the dead. May Moorlock curse you! --Who got killed anyway? > HIs battle fleet was inadaquite to take on such a foe and he should > of never ingaged the Barbarians, expecially with some much HI at sea. > This was no great victory! Well, what must we do to impress you? Kill every Imperial on Midgard? Well...okay! --There will be no great victory on the Seas for barbarians. No one is a worthy opponent. > And for your Victory over the Serks who, eventhough they had a couple > of victories over the Merk Verk, are not warriors. And I would figure > such as you would not consider this as anything more than a slaughter > which should of happened. The soldiers of the Blood and Fire are set ablaze by the fire of Moorlock; they are Midgard's finest fighters. We are proud of the fact that we did not end their power on Midgard during our "encounter." --I don't think you fully understand who the Serks were modeled after then. Look up Scythians in the history book and note how it took forever for the Romans to finally annex Parthia. (Am I hitting the right 'kingdom/territory name here Steve?) > I tell you this Barbarians the Empire sleeps no more! and I can see that > worries you. Hah! Nothing worries a barbarian! And I'm glad you announced to the world that the Empire was awake--we wouldn't have noticed had you not said so. --Then sleep no more. Drowsy soldiers make poor soldiers. --PJP ------------------------------ From: PacHockey@aol.com Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 03:49:44 -0500 Subject: Re: RE: Re[2]: MID: Ring standings >Look up Scythians in the history book and note how it took >forever for the >Romans to finally annex Parthia. (Am I hitting the right >'kingdom/territory >name here Steve?) You are in fact correct. From what I know of the Serks, they were the only true mounted archers in the game. Boys and Girls, in antiquity effective mounted archers were the most effective troops around--just ask the victims of the Mongols. Steve T. ------------------------------ From: Hideyori@aol.com Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 09:42:03 -0500 Subject: Re: RE: Re[2]: MID: Ring standings >You are in fact correct. From what I know of the Serks, they >were the only >true mounted archers in the game. Boys and Girls, in >antiquity effective >mounted archers were the most effective troops around--just >ask the victims >of the Mongols. Why not just ask the MV who survived Fanglan? Eldarion of the Blood and Fire ------------------------------ From: USAMIDGARD@aol.com Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 12:46:37 -0500 Subject: Re: Re[2]: MID: Ring standings In a message dated 96-03-10 04:13:12 EST, you write: > You are in fact correct. From what I know of the Serks, they were the only >true mounted archers in the game. Boys and Girls, in antiquity effective >mounted archers were the most effective troops around--just ask the victims >of the Mongols. Steve, You hit the nail on the head and summed it up brilliantly. Parthia(Serkeanar) never lost a field battle with Rome unless they would close, and the Roman Legions could get there hands on them. They lost the final battle at the Parthian Capital City, Big Surprise! The Mongols simply refused to allow such an event to ever occur... distance did have a little to do with that. Although the Serkeanar as a Faction are currently removed from the game, "ideas" are not so easily extinguished as are a few clans/cities. Another reference for the mass of the people who have no interest in history (and continue to pay the price), Christianity in the Soviet Union. The specific examples are Legion (pardon the reference). Enjoy Zan ------------------------------ From: Arlap@aol.com Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 09:32:43 -0500 Subject: MID: Fwd: Almost forgot the jokes! This is from one of the players down under and I thought everyone might get a kick out of them. - --------------------- Forwarded message: From: asweller@powerup.com.au (Anthony Weller) To: arlap@aol.com Date: 96-03-11 08:44:11 EST Q: What do you do if you have a gun with 2 bullets and are in a room with Ide Amin, Hitler and a Merc Verk? A: Shoot the Merc Verk twice. Q: What do you do if you have a gun with 2 bullets and are in a room with a Ring, an Imperial and a Merc Verk? A: Shoot youself twice. ------------------------------ From: SCHRADER@vaxd.sxu.edu Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 17:36:28 -0600 (CST) Subject: RE: MID: Fwd: Almost forgot the jokes! All right............... Who gave the Boda guns? <g> Can I give the Imperials nuclear warheads?.......... Zan?...... Can I please? <g> ------------------------------ From: SCHRADER@vaxd.sxu.edu Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 10:25:19 -0600 (CST) Subject: MID: Poins Hail and Well Met! After a full Imperial investigation at the city of Poins on suspected criminal activities during MV occupation, the Imperial faction has concluded that the MV are innocent of all charges and as such the ex-MV City Leader of Poins is absolved from all guilt in regards to this particular incident. A full investigation at Lakehed has found that the Buccaneers are in fact guilty of the razing of that city. The War Status against the Buccaneers continues. An investigation into Finmart has been blocked as Imperial couriers were denied access to the city by Blood and Fire guards. This bodes poorly for the B&F since the innocent have nothing to hide. However, the Ring have still failed to provide any documented proof for the proclaimed atrocities at Finmart. Until either the Imperial investigation moves forward or the Ring provide proof the Imperials will not condemn the B&F specifically for the alleged crimes. However, it should be known that the Imperials DO openly CONDEMN the killing of soldiers who have surrendered in battle. Lord Palan Tark Governor of Midgard ------------------------------ From: mjs@savanti.com (Mike Sutton) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 11:59:10 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: MID: Poins > An investigation into Finmart has been blocked as Imperial couriers >were denied access to the city by Blood and Fire guards. This bodes poorly >for the B&F since the innocent have nothing to hide. However, the Ring have >still failed to provide any documented proof for the proclaimed atrocities at >Finmart. Until either the Imperial investigation moves forward or the Ring >provide proof the Imperials will not condemn the B&F specifically for the >alleged crimes. However, it should be known that the Imperials DO openly >CONDEMN the killing of soldiers who have surrendered in battle. > >Lord Palan Tark >Governor of Midgard I suggest m'lord that whilst your men are idling outside Finmart with their feet kicking in the dust, perhaps they would be better employed by shifting themselves slightly to kick at the fresh dirt of all the mass graves outside the walls. I humbly put to you that defenseless men killed by the sword will either have cut marks to their forearms, or rope marks about their wrists. (My personal Chirugeon calls this "the wonderous art of Forensicks".) Always at your service m'lord, Victor Ansable (Mike Sutton mjs@savanti.com) ------------------------------ From: J1WESCHAN@aol.com Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 13:53:17 -0500 Subject: MID: Re:Poins Victor Ansable, You would disturb the dead, desecrate the rest of those who have gone to paradise? You would listen to the advise of a young person who has lost the ability of respect for the dead? This borders upon sacrilege. Are you espousing the belief that we are not to feel at rest and peace and safety even in death? In fear for your soul, Trunga Rinpoche ------------------------------ From: mjs@savanti.com (Mike Sutton) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 00:28:04 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: MID: Re:Poins >Victor Ansable, >You would disturb the dead, desecrate the rest of those who have gone to >paradise? You would listen to the advise of a young person who has lost the >ability of respect for the dead? >This borders upon sacrilege. Are you espousing the belief that we are not to >feel at rest and peace and safety even in death? > >In fear for your soul, >Trunga Rinpoche > My Dearest Trunga, If the men be so foully murdered as put forward by the Ring (and I have always found them to be men of their word) I would suggest their souls are obviously still wandering the planes between Midgard and the light. Although I am not a religious man, these matters are often weighty and beyond my ken, I am a practical one. These would remain uneasy dead until the matter is determined. Whereupon they could be properly buried under the rites of the Ring with due ceremony. I am not a grave-robber, no evil was intended. I suggest there is no sacrilege without a consecrated burial. Perhaps the matter should be put to the Patriarch of the Ring himself for consideration. Does Truth and Justice outweigh the Sanctity of the Dead in this matter? If done properly and with care, the Imperials would discover the evidence beneath their feet. (Since they are dragging them, it is a shame to waste the earth removal effect...) Humbly, Victor Ansable MV (Mike Sutton mjs@savanti.com) p.s. As for my soul, it is no doubt well lost, I have complete assurance of that. I gather there are many B&F who would like to assist in my lowering into the black pit. It warms me that I will be in such august company with the complete B&F priesthood when I get there. So do not trouble yourself mightily over it. ------------------------------ From: Hideyori@aol.com Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 12:07:42 -0500 Subject: [none] ier if someone would just ask me what happened? I am Sunwolf, commander of the Blood and Fire forces that took Finmart. Yes, we sacrificed those warriors that were captured. They helped consecrate the new Temple to Moorlock. It was a glorious day!! I suppose some of you will try to condem us. Face facts. You who will use this as an excuse to go after us just aren't man enough to do it. You need some excuse so that you may have allies with you because you fear fighting us by yourselves. We are not the Serkenear. We are the Blood and Fire. We love to fight. Sunwolf ------------------------------ From: "Petonak, Paul M'bio" <paulp@microbio.LIFESCI.UCLA.EDU> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 96 14:25:00 PST Subject: MID: T E S T Hi, just checking something don't get all pissy --- .. ..... --- ------------------------------ From: "Petonak, Paul M'bio" <paulp@microbio.LIFESCI.UCLA.EDU> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 96 17:01:00 PST Subject: MID: Player Quantity I have been wondering for a while about how many people and clans are presently actively playing the game. One of my clans has a number of 2035 and I have seen new clans go as high as 3400 or so. Yet, I doubt there are 1400 active clans out there. If so Zan would probably never answer my email. I have also wondered about how many actual independents are playing the game. Anyone know? If I were to guess, as best as possible, I'd say maybe 125 active clans. But this list would lead you to beleive there are about 8 players. Has this list actually been advertised yet? I have read the Midgard reports on the web and I have seen no mention of it in any of them. --Paul Pet-o-nak ------------------------------ End of The Midgard Digest V1 #15 ******************************** To subscribe to The Midgard Digest, send the command: subscribe midgard-digest in the body of a message to "majordomo@io.com" To unsubscribe from The Midgard Digest send the command: unsubscribe midgard-digest in the body of a message to "majordomo@io.com" If you want to subscribe something other than the account the mail is coming from, such as a local redistribution list, then append that address to the "subscribe" command; for example, to subscribe "local-midgard-list": subscribe midgard-digest local-mid-list@your.domain.net A non-digest (direct mail) version of this list is also available; to subscribe to that instead, replace all instances of "midgard-digest" in the commands above with "midgard-list". Up