Re: It's a Crime - 1st turns mailed Friday.

From: "Bob Luthardt" <luthardt@clark.net>

Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 00:00:00 +0000

Gary Baines <g.baines@xdialpipex.com> wrote in article
<34749CD3.6872CFBA@xdialpipex.com>...
> Bob Luthardt wrote:

> And yet that seems to be all you're doing, calling people asshole and
> generally jumping down peoples throats is not going to ingratiate you to
> the average reader or make us consider you a mature poster worthy of
> conducting a serious discussion with on PBM.

Well, yes I did get obnoxios and I'm not going to prattle on that. I was
insultive and I was brash. But I did not jump down peoples throats
indiscriminately. I was angered by the unneccesary hostile way in which I
was asked to kindly take it elsewhere. No, nobody said this directly, but
in so many words, yes the desire was made clear.

In email, I've been told by those who did this that they acted upon an
assumption of what they felt I *might* to; a *potential* action I might
take in the *future*. Perhaps it is just me, but I like to wait for an
infraction to actually take place before issuing a reprimand for it. If
it's round and red, it isn't always an apple. I suppose I just wanted to be
found innocent until proven guilty - that's all.

Perhaps I've not ingratiated myself with this group, but I really can't go
back and remove every unwelcome post I made starting with "1st turns mailed
Friday". (please forgive me for typing that again, but it was for
demonstration purposes only).

> If you got upset at me calling It's a Crime a game for beginners (which
> KJC marketed it as in the 80's and they should know) then perhaps you
> would have been better served to explain in an adult manner why you
> think it is the best game since the postage stamp was invented, rather
> than acting like an immature lout who just lost his dummy.

I'm fully aware of the marketing of IAC in the 80's, and I don't mind you
not liking it. That has never been a problem, nor have I ever argued that
view with anyone. If IAC were indeed the be all and end all of PBM games,
there would be no others to play - we'd all be running gangs. I also do not
mind being in the minute minority who enjoys the game, I just didn't like
the implication that because there was an insufficient groundswell for the
game, that I couldn't mention it here.

Actually, I just lost my *lout*. If you see him, please tell him I'm scared
and alone.

> Everyone else saw Phil's initial remark as jestful, perhaps you should
> re-evaluate things and look to see if perhaps you're not making a fool
> of yourself in all this.  I doubt you will, but I await with bated
> breath for an apology.

Well, I don't want to see you suffocate, Gary but I'm not prepared to
apologise. I've not said anything I'm ashamed of, and I've not said
anything that, had it happened again the same exact way, I wouldn't say
again. I'm just going to bank on it not happening again. Maybe I'm making a
fool of myself, maybe not. But it would seem that in the opinion of some,
the simple declaration that I'm playing It's a Crime is sufficient evidence
to that end. This I find unfair and sad.
I hope that in lieu of an apology, you'll accept the understanding that
perhaps it was indeed a mistake to say anything at all.
> Gary.
>
>
>
>

References

Re: It's a Crime - 1st turns mailed Friday.
Phil Shulkind <phil@phildee.demon.co.uk>
Mon, 17 Nov 1997 00:00:00 +0000
Re: It's a Crime - 1st turns mailed Friday.
kmgraphiks@aol.com (KMGraphiks)
Tue, 18 Nov 1997 00:00:00 +0000
Re: It's a Crime - 1st turns mailed Friday.
"Bob Luthardt" <luthardt@clark.net>
Tue, 18 Nov 1997 00:00:00 +0000
Re: It's a Crime - 1st turns mailed Friday.
cid85jol@spamguard.com (Joakim)
Thu, 20 Nov 1997 00:00:00 +0000
Re: It's a Crime - 1st turns mailed Friday.
"Bob Luthardt" <luthardt@clark.net>
Thu, 20 Nov 1997 00:00:00 +0000
Re: It's a Crime - 1st turns mailed Friday.
Gary Baines <g.baines@xdialpipex.com>
Thu, 20 Nov 1997 00:00:00 +0000

Referenced By

Re: It's a Crime - 1st turns mailed Friday.
Phil Shulkind <phil@phildee.demon.co.uk>
Mon, 17 Nov 1997 00:00:00 +0000
Re: It's a Crime - 1st turns mailed Friday.
kmgraphiks@aol.com (KMGraphiks)
Tue, 18 Nov 1997 00:00:00 +0000
Re: It's a Crime - 1st turns mailed Friday.
"Bob Luthardt" <luthardt@clark.net>
Tue, 18 Nov 1997 00:00:00 +0000
Re: It's a Crime - 1st turns mailed Friday.
cid85jol@spamguard.com (Joakim)
Thu, 20 Nov 1997 00:00:00 +0000
Re: It's a Crime - 1st turns mailed Friday.
"Bob Luthardt" <luthardt@clark.net>
Thu, 20 Nov 1997 00:00:00 +0000
Re: It's a Crime - 1st turns mailed Friday.
Gary Baines <g.baines@xdialpipex.com>
Thu, 20 Nov 1997 00:00:00 +0000